I will have to go through my paperwork and fine the cost I got from Applegate. My reasoning was that if you figure it into the bid for someone else and they could afford it it would be good. I would have had to take a trailer load to get the low price. Spaceman, do you know what a bale of that stuff costs at Lowe's or Home Depot? Perry, maybe you could get that info off the web. I remember we used a couple of bales that Lex brought with him when we got together here in Abiquiu. I think we used 1/2 bale per load but am not sure. One advantage to using it is you don't need a papercrete mixer. You can do it in a cement or mortar mixer.
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Beans, rice and home made bread sound good, but some eggs and salsa and some mexican cotija queso would top it off for me!
I like how fast it sounds to make those insulation batches. What do you think the cost would be per square feet based on a decent thickness? Maybe this technique would be an acceptable cost to some folks, as you say.
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I like how fast it sounds to make those insulation batches. What do you think the cost would be per square feet based on a decent thickness? Maybe this technique would be an acceptable cost to some folks, as you say.
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No, I can't afford to pay that much for papercrete so won't switch to cellulose insulation as a base material. As you say, even at half price it is still high and I don't have a half price source. I intend to make a paper pulverizer that will produce paper beaten to a pulp, so to speak. I'm considering a couple of approaches, need to experiment some.
Using cellulose insulation definitely would save time and effort during mixing. No need for all that powerful agitation and pounding, just mix the insulation with a little water and stir. For anyone with more money than time and energy it may be worth the extra expense.
The mold I filled yesterday is the first triangular panel for the small dome, 1 out of 150. I won't be able to do #2 today since I have to be elsewhere, but once I get started mixing I should be able to do them all in a couple of weeks. By the end of July they should all be ready to install. I'll have that project to work on, plus the huge hole is sitting there begging for some work. Come on down, I have lots of beans and rice and home made bread : )
Using cellulose insulation definitely would save time and effort during mixing. No need for all that powerful agitation and pounding, just mix the insulation with a little water and stir. For anyone with more money than time and energy it may be worth the extra expense.
The mold I filled yesterday is the first triangular panel for the small dome, 1 out of 150. I won't be able to do #2 today since I have to be elsewhere, but once I get started mixing I should be able to do them all in a couple of weeks. By the end of July they should all be ready to install. I'll have that project to work on, plus the huge hole is sitting there begging for some work. Come on down, I have lots of beans and rice and home made bread : )
spaceman All opinions expressed or implied are subject to change without notice upon receipt of new information.On 7/6/2011 10:03 PM, JUDITH WILLIAMS wrote:
Thanks for the helpful information. At one time I thought I was going to be bidding a small papercrete building for someone. It was off the grid and not suitable for a tow mixer. I priced cellulose insulation thinking I would do as you have done. As it turned out the woman decided not to build but as a result of the bidding I developed a relationship with the owner of Applegate Insulation in Cololrado Springs. He was going to sell me a trailer load at less than half retail. Being bad with numbers I don't remember the cost except that it was high. But I can see the advantage of using it for large projects. Do you think it would save time? The Rabons at Mason Greenstar use hammer milled paper in their blocks. Are you planning to keep using it?
How are you coming with the dome? You have work planned for next month don't you? I have not done anything on my project for about a month. It has been so hot and this smoke from the big fire is awful. Well anyway, if you want some help in Aug maybe I can come down.
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