Sunday, July 24, 2011

Re: [papercreters] Just joined.



Hi Spaceman.

Mmmm, monsoon..
Where are you located??

I live part of the year still in Costa Rica (been there for 12 years) so we have a tat of liquid sunshine there too.

I am not sure yet where I am going to build, and am basically accumulating information. I will most likely build with a combination of systems.

In CR there is a system which uses bamboo/caƱa brave (a cane type), which is nailed in rectangular frames and covered with cement on both sides. Very earthquake proof and quite cheap. I am thinking of using the old bamboo style for this, in which the bamboo is split open lengthwise, flattened and than nailed into the frames. Instead of straight cement I am thinking of using papercrete. This will allow me to prefab, since the frames will be a lot lighter. In addition, the frames don't have to be rectangular, but can follow the shape of post which are actual tree trunks and have bends and curves. Many have "ranchos" made in this manner. A rancho is a type of gazebo so it consists of posts and a roof. It is now a self containing structure which is cheap to build (low permit costs as well if that is important) and can be closed in at leisure since on works below the roof in a dry area. Interior walls can also be made in this manner or one can use papercrete blocks.
So I am pretty exited about papercrete. The only problem is that in many central american countries paper is an expensive commodity. 

However, I am not sure I want to actually build there or here in Canada. This depends largely on my business, I have an all natural mosquito repellent which is sluggishly crawling through health canada. In the USA I can manufacture/sell and it is a confirmed exempt product (confirmed by the EPA).

Anyway that is another story, I am right now investigating opportunities to manufacture in the US but need a partnership. this thing has cost me most of my money so far so I need to start making some for a change :-).

Thanks for your message, it was much appreciated and made me feel welcome in the group!

Cheers
Mack

--- On Sun, 24/7/11, Spaceman <Spaceman@starship-enterprises.net> wrote:

From: Spaceman <Spaceman@starship-enterprises.net>
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Just joined.
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, 24 July, 2011, 1:51 PM

 

Welcome to the group Mack. We have a wide range of people here, from those who are making papercrete to those who just like to read about it. You will often get advice from both ends of the spectrum.

It has been too hot here to do much outside for several weeks, with a record number of days over 100f. I don't suppose you have that problem in BC : )

I'll be back to papercrete as soon as the weather breaks, and that might be about now since our annual monsoon season seems to be starting, though with much less rainfall than normal so far this year. A few days ago I went outside to enjoy a thunderstorm and watched it split and go around me, leaving me high and dry. Oh well, I've had almost 1/2" so far this year.

If you are planning on using papercrete where there is a large amount of rainfall, you definitely should go for a good seal and isolate the papercrete from water sources. The old adage of a big hat and sturdy boots for the house is good advice - good foundation and stem wall plus overhang on the roof.


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On 7/23/2011 11:03 PM, Mack M wrote:
Greetings.

I just joined this group after seeing some videos about papercrete.

I am interested in any alternative building process, and sofar papercrete seems a good cross between several other systems i am considering.


I live in BC in the Chilliwack area. Any other people interested in this material in this area? I want to learn as much as possible as quick as possible so any "real live" experience is most welcome.

Looking forward to meeting some papercreters.

Mack



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