Friday, November 14, 2014

Re: Re: [papercreters] hive



 If you google "black soap" you come up with a type of soap made in Africa "from the ash of locally harvested plants and barks such a plantain, cocoa pods, palm tree leaves, and shea tree bark. First the leaves and bark are sun-dried and then roasted in a kettle or pot at an even, constant temperature, which is important to ensure color, texture and smell. Then water and various oils - palm oil, coconut oil, palm kernel oil (including shea butter and cocoa pod powder) - are added to the mixture and stirred for at least a day. After that, the "soap" is left to set for two weeks to cure. "
 
 It would probably work in the flour paint, but dish soap seems easier.
 
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On 11/14/14, claudebouzerand@yahoo.com [papercreters]<papercreters@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
 

Hi Kim, Black soap is natural soap made with linseed oil , potassium and water ,without any other component.I wrote "black soap" beccause I didn't know the English word,sorry, but you can replace it with dish soap,it works ,too. My mother was so impressed with it that I began to paint ther shutters of my parents'farm....You can "Google" Swedish paint or flour paint for recipes. 



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[papercreters] Re: hive



Hi EO. This morning,in France I posted  some explanations for KIM,:my message doesn't appear. So I give you two links  for your questions:

https://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ccdemo.info%2FGardenBees%2FKTBH.html&ei=pgtmVLfhHcLaPJjHgYAL&usg=AFQjCNEyHY7UY2bTiGQfSXuj-3DuXDWYrg.
Here is the fist one which inspired me for my KTBH,but with the papercrete touch... 
and the second one about Swedish paint:
Flour Paint: An easy to prepare, non-toxic, long-lasting... and dirt cheap exterior homemade paint!

 

it's for +-10kg but it's easy to divide.
iron sulphate is a fongicid .It's good against moss,algaes,root and it's natural !

 Black soap,or liquid soap is an emulsifier,it helps for good mix of oil and water,here,for example

Hope it helps you
Cheers
Claude B.



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[papercreters] Re: hive



Hi ,here is a good recipe for the flour paint or swedish paint,it's for abput 10kg but you can divide it,as I did ,and it works well(very!) I used a little bit more of a kilo for my KTBH ...But after use,if you have some rest ,it's preferable to keep it in a close pot and in a fridge: It can ferment...


liquid soap is acting as emulsifier to keep a good mix :Water and oil,for example,here
Iron sulphate is a fungicid,It's natural and it's good against root,and moss .It protects paint and wood  or papercrete for long . Hope it will help you for your projects
I got good inspiration from this site:

 but with the papercrete touch !I tested the panels on a sunny day:papercrete was really fresher than the little wood frames wich surround the panels.Insulation of papercrete is dramatically better than wood ! I was really impressed
Cheers
Claude B.
 


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Thursday, November 13, 2014

[papercreters] Re: hive



Hi Claude,


i am just thinking about getting back to the beekeeping- i just got a library book on Australian Stingless Bees

as i live in an urban area- the papercrete hive looks really good. Could you please post the recipe for the

 Swedish paint? i am making a Guinea Pig cage with some papercrete infills and would like a non toxic

paint to use on the papercrete areas. 

I am curious  as to what 'natural color' you used, what 

Black Soap' is and what the role of  iron Sulphate might be in the recipe?

thanks for putting the pictures up- i will look into the KTBH design- there may be info on google?

cheers, eo






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Re: [papercreters] hive



Hi KIm,I re-read my second message and you must read DRIES rather than dies...! I' m sorry

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Re: [papercreters] hive



Hi Kim, Black soap is natural soap made with linseed oil , potassium and water ,without any other component.I wrote "black soap" beccause I didn't know the English word,sorry, but you can replace it with dish soap,it works ,too. My mother was so impressed with it that I began to paint ther shutters of my parents'farm....You can "Google" Swedish paint or flour paint for recipes. 

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Re: [papercreters] hive



Greetings,

I use lots of home made paint, but this one is new to me.  What is black soap?
Kim Travis PDC  The Rose Colored Forest  Bedias, Texas
On 11/12/2014 10:55 AM, claudebouzerand@yahoo.com [papercreters] wrote:
 

Hi, I posted some pics of my new KTBH (kenyan top bar hive) I discussed here some months ago...As you can see I tried to follow your advices:They perform well! thanks. For painting I used a homemade paint:The swedish paint made with flour,cooked in water then I added natural color,linseed oil ,some "black soap" and little iron sulfate .It's cheap and can last up to 10 years! and dies in one hour...





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