Thursday, December 12, 2019

[papercreters] Re: Opening messages in the downloaded archive



keep going Ken! and BLAKE you are a blessing!


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Charmaine Visnesky Taylor 
back of beyond PacNW


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Posted by: "C. C. Visnesky" <charmainertaylor@gmail.com>



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Wednesday, December 11, 2019

Re: [papercreters] Opening messages in the downloaded archive



Hi Ken -

Depending on how the data is structured you can pretty easily convert json data to CSV files via online tools like this:

Otherwise, there are more options available. 

Gero

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 3:22 PM ken winston caine ken.winston.caine@gmail.com [papercreters] <papercreters@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Am finding files and photos are well-preserved in the unzipped download. However, messages are saved in javascript notation (.json files). And while they can be opened easily with notepad or other text viewer, they display in a form like page source once opened. A lot of code..

Am new to converting .json files and my Googling so far has not turned up a way to open them so that they display just the messages and comments without all the extraneous source code. If anyone knows a trick to do that, please, please share with us.



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Posted by: Gero Bazant <gero.bazant@gmail.com>



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Re: [papercreters] Opening messages in the downloaded archive



Hey Ken,

See my other post. Working on it ;-)

Regards,

Blake


On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 at 07:22, ken winston caine ken.winston.caine@gmail.com [papercreters] <papercreters@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Am finding files and photos are well-preserved in the unzipped download. However, messages are saved in javascript notation (.json files). And while they can be opened easily with notepad or other text viewer, they display in a form like page source once opened. A lot of code..

Am new to converting .json files and my Googling so far has not turned up a way to open them so that they display just the messages and comments without all the extraneous source code. If anyone knows a trick to do that, please, please share with us.



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Posted by: Blake Robertson <blake@connectra.com.au>



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Re: [papercreters] Thank you, Blake!



Hi Ken,

Absolutely my pleasure. It took a bit of doing  - Yahoo's servers are responding very slowly at the moment, mainly I think because there is a loosely coordinated, massive, global "confederation of geeks" trying to archive as much as possible before it all gets deleted. I was able to take the backup only because they have made their "geek majic" tools available and I speak just enough geek to have been able to puzzle through the right incarnations to get their stuff to function. From all accounts the official backup Y! offer members is terrible and "woefully incomplete". What we have is a better backup. So, anyway, everyone remember to hug a hacker today. They're the one who made this possible.

I'm hoping to do more with the backup in the near future. The archive of files and pictures is usable now, but the discussions - whilst in the backup - aren't preserved in a way that makes it easy to use. I'm aware of one tool that has been hacked together to "de-yahoo-ify" the format and convert it to something useful, so I'll put some time into that in the next week or so. The authors of the tool have stated that it isn't 100% though because Y! obfuscate the data somewhat.

I'm also going to try and figure out how (if) I can get the archive online and searchable through a web page. If I can pull that off I'll set it up and make it available.

Interesting to think that 10 - 15 years ago Groups was where Faceplant is now, but less ubiquitous. I think Y! deleting the archives is a tragedy. It is, honestly, inexcusable.  They could easily have handed the complete archive over to archive.org and none of this would be required. Instead, they burn the library of Alexandria all over again. (Although, yes, I know it was only a warehouse of scrolls that burned, and not the actual library, but the point remains intact...)

If anyone has any thoughts/requests/suggestions/questions/etc please let me know!

Regards,
Blake


On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 at 02:16, ken winston caine ken.winston.caine@gmail.com [papercreters] <papercreters@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

...for rescuing the data and making it available.



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Posted by: Blake Robertson <blake@connectra.com.au>



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[papercreters] Opening messages in the downloaded archive



Am finding files and photos are well-preserved in the unzipped download. However, messages are saved in javascript notation (.json files). And while they can be opened easily with notepad or other text viewer, they display in a form like page source once opened. A lot of code..

Am new to converting .json files and my Googling so far has not turned up a way to open them so that they display just the messages and comments without all the extraneous source code. If anyone knows a trick to do that, please, please share with us.


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Posted by: ken winston caine <ken.winston.caine@gmail.com>



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[papercreters] Blake's downloadable full archive of group...



... is 879MB. 

In case you missed the link he posted, here it is again:
https://filedn.com/lt4cu6M6VUgY7dnSwTwww5j/  


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Posted by: ken winston caine <ken.winston.caine@gmail.com>



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