Tuesday, March 3, 2015

Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof



Furniture makers' workshops around me seem to leave very large bags of fine sawdust out on the street every now and then, presumably for anyone who wants it. It never seems to be there long.

On 04/03/2015 1:22 AM, "valledecalle@yahoo.com [papercreters]" <papercreters@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Thanks, 
In the us we don't have hemp fiber, but am wondering what else may be useful.

Calle

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From: eo greensticks eogreensticks@gmail.com [papercreters]
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 3:50 AM
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof

 

Here in Tasmania, we have sawmills that have literally MOUNTAINS of sawdust from the milling that they are happy to give away-it is eucalypt sawdust but i used it in my 'experimental concrete work' and it was ok- in fact, the concrete work i did 5 years ago still looks new though i wondered at the time if the eucalypt oils would interact poorly in the cement chemistry? ( such useful stuff, sawdust- brilliant for composting toilet system as well!)  Otherwise try carpenters/joinery workshops- theirs is 'curlier' but would probably still work?What i would REALLY like to try is hemp fibre- so far can't source it here but i reckon hemp would be even better as no forests have to get cut down to produce it! I am living in hope of being able to buy 'animal bedding' hemp fibre but so far no joy there. 

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 6:47 AM, valledecalle@yahoo.com [papercreters] <papercreters@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Thanks now to find a good source of sawdust.


Calle

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From: gd@moworx.com [papercreters]
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof

 

For timbercrete you use wood shavings instead of paper. In Australia they are building houses with timbercrete blocks.






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Posted by: Blake Robertson <yahoo@connectra.com.au>



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Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof



Thanks, 
In the us we don't have hemp fiber, but am wondering what else may be useful.

Calle

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network.
From: eo greensticks eogreensticks@gmail.com [papercreters]
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 3:50 AM
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Reply To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof

 

Here in Tasmania, we have sawmills that have literally MOUNTAINS of sawdust from the milling that they are happy to give away-it is eucalypt sawdust but i used it in my 'experimental concrete work' and it was ok- in fact, the concrete work i did 5 years ago still looks new though i wondered at the time if the eucalypt oils would interact poorly in the cement chemistry? ( such useful stuff, sawdust- brilliant for composting toilet system as well!)  Otherwise try carpenters/joinery workshops- theirs is 'curlier' but would probably still work?What i would REALLY like to try is hemp fibre- so far can't source it here but i reckon hemp would be even better as no forests have to get cut down to produce it! I am living in hope of being able to buy 'animal bedding' hemp fibre but so far no joy there. 

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 6:47 AM, valledecalle@yahoo.com [papercreters] <papercreters@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Thanks now to find a good source of sawdust.


Calle

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network.
From: gd@moworx.com [papercreters]
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof

 

For timbercrete you use wood shavings instead of paper. In Australia they are building houses with timbercrete blocks.






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Posted by: valledecalle@yahoo.com



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Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof



Here in Tasmania, we have sawmills that have literally MOUNTAINS of sawdust from the milling that they are happy to give away-it is eucalypt sawdust but i used it in my 'experimental concrete work' and it was ok- in fact, the concrete work i did 5 years ago still looks new though i wondered at the time if the eucalypt oils would interact poorly in the cement chemistry? ( such useful stuff, sawdust- brilliant for composting toilet system as well!)  Otherwise try carpenters/joinery workshops- theirs is 'curlier' but would probably still work?What i would REALLY like to try is hemp fibre- so far can't source it here but i reckon hemp would be even better as no forests have to get cut down to produce it! I am living in hope of being able to buy 'animal bedding' hemp fibre but so far no joy there. 

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 6:47 AM, valledecalle@yahoo.com [papercreters] <papercreters@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Thanks now to find a good source of sawdust.


Calle

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network.
From: gd@moworx.com [papercreters]
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof

 

For timbercrete you use wood shavings instead of paper. In Australia they are building houses with timbercrete blocks.





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Posted by: eo greensticks <eogreensticks@gmail.com>



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Monday, March 2, 2015

Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof



Thanks now to find a good source of sawdust.


Calle

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network.
From: gd@moworx.com [papercreters]
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 1:10 PM
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Reply To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof

 

For timbercrete you use wood shavings instead of paper. In Australia they are building houses with timbercrete blocks.




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Posted by: valledecalle@yahoo.com



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Friday, February 27, 2015

Re: [papercreters] Fast alternative to papercrete?



Thankyou for that Marthe- i have been waiting months to use my papercrete pots! 

 cement chemistry is interesting and not necessarily intuitive. I love the Fairy garden stuff- beautiful!

On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Marthe Hook marthehook@hotmail.ca [papercreters] <papercreters@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

I' vw made many plnaters and pots formpaercrete and planted inthem within a week. NO problems. The newspaer does much to reduce alkalinity. Adding latex paint .a samll amount ..20z bottle for a small batch of crete for two pots. - helps with iresiliency as well as reducing alkalinity quickly.

Marthe   Website fairygarden.ca     DIY Blog   thefairygaren.ca   blog has a papercrete post


To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
From: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 16:06:16 -0600
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Fast alternative to papercrete?

 

Sorry I guess what I sent takes time to dry.

Find some blue plastic cattle lick tubs for free and use them till your pots dry.


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From: gd@moworx.com [papercreters]
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 11:59 AM
Subject: [papercreters] Fast alternative to papercrete?

 

Hi,

I am preparing to make a few garden pots from papercrete. I just realise for this time it takes too long until they cure. Could you recommend something similar that would be usable within a few days?







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Posted by: eo greensticks <eogreensticks@gmail.com>



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[papercreters] Re: Making papercrete really waterproof



The matter of calcium chloride: CaCl is much more reactive than NaCl. Hence the the warning label. Its not explosive, but admixtures that would have neutral reactions in the presence of NaCl may not in the presence of CaCl. Probably the most common reaction would be precipitates.

Waterproofing: There are quite a few paints that would work quite well. The only problem being the cost. The other issue is papercrete to a certain extent needs to breathe. Sealing it up completely might lead to issues.

Planter pots: I use simple latex paint on the inside. You still might some alkaline bleed but it will be greatly reduced.




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Posted by: john mcginnis <maruadventurer@gmail.com>



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Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof



For timbercrete you use wood shavings instead of paper. In Australia they are building houses with timbercrete blocks.

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Posted by: gd@moworx.com



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