Tuesday, July 26, 2011

RE: [papercreters] Re: Free Camping - Dome building and papercrete



Before this gets into a slanging match about big government versus little government etc here's my tip on actually getting down this slippery road, from someone who's worked in the jungle in PNG (it's ALWAYS muddy there).

 

Track yourself down a little Suzuki Samurai 4x4(I think that's what they call them in the states).  Go to your local tractor shop and buy a set of 15" or 16" tractor tyres suitable  for one of those little Kubota tractors.  They are really cheap.  If town is close, you could even drive into town on them, but they do wear out quick on the hard stuff.

This will go better in mud than a quad, cost less, have a heater and a radio, and be useful when it's not raining, when you put the road tyres back on.

 

Trev

 

From: papercreters@yahoogroups.com [mailto:papercreters@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Donald Miller
Sent: Wednesday, 27 July 2011 12:22 AM
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Re: Free Camping - Dome building and papercrete

 

 

Building permits and other government infringements on personal liberties are all about "public safety" as well. That handy little catch-all phrase is a useful tool for government infringement and beaurocratic establishment and intrusions. Montana is not California, that is why you want to move there, right? Don't expect paved roads and a WalMart on every corner.  --- On Mon, 7/25/11, George <georgeberz@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: George <georgeberz@yahoo.com>
Subject: [papercreters] Re: Free Camping - Dome building and papercrete
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 9:16 AM

 

Aparently the muddy road is all clay, no standard roadbase, and then covered with a thin layer of gravel, when it rains the clay loosens up and the gravel sinks, happens all the time I am told.

So I was put off and disullusioned a bit for the moment but intend to make my way back either later this year or early next and I do have a solution.

It is a county road and as such the county has an obligation to make and keep it safe for travel, the county adopted it and gets more property taxes from all the properties that lie along its length, so they do receive a financial incentive.

Now apparently they have not been put on notice by a law firm on behalf of the residents, When I go back out there I will have a legal notice drawn up listing the names of the local residents in a complaint filed by a law firm putting the county on notice about their defective road construction and maintinence and that should an accident occur or a normal 2 wheel drive vehicle get stuck the county will be sued and will pay for the liability.

Apparently no resident has put them on legal notice... My 2000 diesel discovery RV nearly slid off the road several times and it was just pure luck I didnt crash my RV.

I'm sure they will be properly maintaining the road once their liability has been properly explained to them.

After all its all about public safety.

I grew up in the Troy area just 15 miles north of Detroit

George
http://outpostalpha.com

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, Alan <rustaholic777@...> wrote:
>
> As I understand it the muddy road is all public road?
> Why not file a complaint?
> They should dump a train load of gravel on the road.
>  
> Where in Michigan did you grow up?
> I am up near Traverse City.
> I have two neighbors here that call the county road commision whenever the road gets a bit ugly and for some reason they come out and fix it promptly.
>  
> Alan in Michigan
>
> --- On Sun, 7/24/11, George <georgeberz@...> wrote:
>



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