Re: [papercreters] Reciprocal Roofs- 16 sided house

Hi:

If you don't use a/c the rice hulls would not make sense. As far as
the cost to super insulate a house any other method would be far more
expensive even if you had to transport the hulls a great distance. The
difference in framing cost is minimal and the added strength is well
worth it. With the cavity underneath you would have no problem with
cold feet . Mastic made for gluing down floors takes care of insects
and air leaks quite well, it is not cheap but will last 100 years.

I am a little confused, I thought you lived on the Gulf Coast of
Texas. Papercrete and fidobe are super labour intensive. It looks cool
and works well to equalize temps but the cost is at least double if
you consider your time and labour. The Rice Hull Houses ended up
costing about a dollar a foot more for the framing but that was offset
by the savings on insulation. A 100 yard load of hulls would insulate
2700 square foot to an r-50. would cost about 500.00 and if you
figured 2.00 a mile for a truck designed for moving agricultural
products I can't imagine a scenario that would not save a ton of money
over any other method of insulation. No commercial product would give
you that r-factor for anywhere near that price and the cost of the
foundation and labour to use earth or papercrete , not to mention the
specialized tools necessary such as the mixer would be several times
that much. Using squirrel cage fans salvaged from old heaters you
could build a blower for about 400.00 - 250.00 for the fans, hose and
the plywood and $150.00 for a days labour.

If I was going to build with earth or papercrete I would use firewood
logs and stone on the outside walls because it is so beautiful. Too
bad you can't rent a block maker for papercrete , that would be cool.

Let me know how you project goes. good luck.


>
> Papercrete and fidobe are actually very good choices for this part of
> the world. I have a friend who's walls are now over a decade old, never
> painted or finished, no roof protection as the buildings were not
> finished. No mold, mildew or disintegration to be seen. His recipe is
> in the files or message archives.
>
> Under no circumstances would I ever again build a home with an airspace
> underneath. I hate cold feet, fire ants, cockroaches, skunks, snakes
> etc. That is what that invites. I have lived with it, am living with
> it, never ever again. I have learned my lesson.
>
> I am no where near the rice fields. The cost of bringing in rice hulls
> would be exorbitant. Also, the cost of building that air space to fill.
>
> No form of chemicals is allowed in my home, I am chemically sensitive.
> So no form of pesticide is allowed. Other than plain cinnamon, that is.
>
> We do not use AC, never have. We have found that with proper
> ventilation, insulation and foliage it is not needed. The people that
> settled this part of the world didn't have it, it is not needed in the
> country where the breeze still exists. The city is a different case,
> too many houses too close, the ventilation can not work.
>
> Bright Blessings,
> Garth & Kim Travis
> www.TheRoseColoredForest.com
> Bedias, Texas
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


--
Forrest Charnock




On 11/7/12, Garth & Kim Travis <gartht@windstream.net> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> Very few living roofs exist here, too long a dry spell every summer.
> You have to run a sprinkler system on the roof to keep it alive. This
> is not my definition of environmentally friendly. However, using the
> reciprocal roof as the skeleton of the roof, will work nicely. Cover
> with petrified hessian and put a cupola in the center. Nice light to
> the middle of the building as well as heat chimney. Perfect set up.
> You do not have to do the green roof thing, just because you used logs,
> it can be an infill with papercrete, or several option on how to finish
> the roof.
>
> Yes, it is humid here, and yes, I do have to watch for termites. But
> there are tricks to allow you to keep control of the situation. Exposed
> to the interior with a good natural [homemade] paint will allow an
> annual inspection that will find any rot long before a real problem starts.
>
> Papercrete and fidobe are actually very good choices for this part of
> the world. I have a friend who's walls are now over a decade old, never
> painted or finished, no roof protection as the buildings were not
> finished. No mold, mildew or disintegration to be seen. His recipe is
> in the files or message archives.
>
> Under no circumstances would I ever again build a home with an airspace
> underneath. I hate cold feet, fire ants, cockroaches, skunks, snakes
> etc. That is what that invites. I have lived with it, am living with
> it, never ever again. I have learned my lesson.
>
> I am no where near the rice fields. The cost of bringing in rice hulls
> would be exorbitant. Also, the cost of building that air space to fill.
>
> No form of chemicals is allowed in my home, I am chemically sensitive.
> So no form of pesticide is allowed. Other than plain cinnamon, that is.
>
> We do not use AC, never have. We have found that with proper
> ventilation, insulation and foliage it is not needed. The people that
> settled this part of the world didn't have it, it is not needed in the
> country where the breeze still exists. The city is a different case,
> too many houses too close, the ventilation can not work.
>
> Bright Blessings,
> Garth & Kim Travis
> www.TheRoseColoredForest.com
> Bedias, Texas
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


--
Forrest Charnock


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