Tuesday, February 12, 2008

RE: [papercreters] Gabions+Papercrete

Of course. That makes sense. Silly me.

To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
From: danceswithdachshunds@comcast.net
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:05:50 -0700
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Gabions+Papercrete

They don't come filled. They are shipped flat packed, and assembled and filled on site form local materials.
----- Original Message -----
From: ElfNori
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Gabions+Papercrete

The cost of shipping a filled gabion would be excessive . . .
 
ElfN
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Gabions+Papercrete

I don't know about anybody else, but I'm talking about premade. I'm too old and lazy to be making everything from scratch!
A boathouse-
 
Tina
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:23 PM
Subject: RE: [papercreters] Gabions+Papercrete

Are we talking about preformed gabions or ones you make yourself into the shape you need? Are they readily available? I have many many rocks of all different sizes that could be used to fill the gabion. Thanks for all this info. I am not very gabion savvy.

To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
From: elf@elfnori.com
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:38:06 -0800
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Gabions+Papercrete

What about a gambion footer under a concrete stemwall. The stemwall
wouldn't have to be very tall. I'm building on the top of a ridge with a
pretty good dropoff on the backside . . . I need someone who's an expert at
gambion foundations to look at where I'm building and yeah or nay it for the
app.

I'm with you on the "hate drywall" bit.

ElfN

----- Original Message -----
From: "canineaficionado" <danceswithdachshunds@comcast.net>

> Nori just mentioned gabions (rubble foundations)- I'd like to throw my
> 2 cents in here. Mike and I are planning on building our curved wall
> retirement home using gabions as the wall system. Hesco makes a
> partitioned gabion that is 3 feet wide, one foot of which can hold a
> decorative facing material like brick or flat rock. My idea is to fill
> the interior portion with river rock and fill the exterior one foot
> section with papercrete. (It will have to be lined to keep the
> papercrete from flowing through the grid.) That would give us 2 feet of
> thermal mass on the inside and one foot of insulation on the outside.
> The skill level is very low- a real bonus for us.
>
> This would not appeal to everyone. I LOVE rock- I HATE drywall, so this
> is the perfect solution for me. The gabions have some structural
> strength to them, plus the rock will add some stability. We'll add a
> poured concrete bond beam to the top of the wall. For the foundation,
> we might use a frost protected shallow foundation (FPSF) instead of
> more gabions. We're still in the first planning stages.



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