Tuesday, February 12, 2008

Re: [papercreters] Gabions+Papercrete

Judith, Days Creek used a rubble trench with a stemwall . . . which is what I think I'm going to use.  It's a perfect match with pahs.
 
 
If you want gabions, you buy the container and fill it yourself.  If you do a google on gabions you'll hit a couple manufacturers.
 
ElfN
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:23 AM
Subject: RE: [papercreters] Gabions+Papercrete

Are we talking about preformed gabions or ones you make yourself into the shape you need? Are they readily available? I have many many rocks of all different sizes that could be used to fill the gabion. Thanks for all this info. I am not very gabion savvy.

To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
From: elf@elfnori.com
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:38:06 -0800
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Gabions+Papercrete

What about a gambion footer under a concrete stemwall. The stemwall
wouldn't have to be very tall. I'm building on the top of a ridge with a
pretty good dropoff on the backside . . . I need someone who's an expert at
gambion foundations to look at where I'm building and yeah or nay it for the
app.

I'm with you on the "hate drywall" bit.

ElfN

----- Original Message -----
From: "canineaficionado" <danceswithdachshunds@comcast.net>

> Nori just mentioned gabions (rubble foundations)- I'd like to throw my
> 2 cents in here. Mike and I are planning on building our curved wall
> retirement home using gabions as the wall system. Hesco makes a
> partitioned gabion that is 3 feet wide, one foot of which can hold a
> decorative facing material like brick or flat rock. My idea is to fill
> the interior portion with river rock and fill the exterior one foot
> sectin with papercrete. (It will have to be lined to keep the
> papercrete from flowing through the grid.) That would give us 2 feet of
> thermal mass on the inside and one foot of insulation on the outside.
> The skill level is very low- a real bonus for us.
>
> This would not appeal to everyone. I LOVE rock- I HATE drywall, so this
> is the perfect solution for me. The gabions have some structural
> strength to them, plus the rock will add some stability. We'll add a
> poured concrete bond beam to the top of the wall. For the foundation,
> we might use a frost protected shallow foundation (FPSF) instead of
> more gabions. We're still in the first planning stages.



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