Tuesday, July 24, 2012

Re: [papercreters] Re: Slip Form Follow-up Question



This is good stuff.
here in Michigan we never know what the weather will do.
I have four inch concrete wire, chicken wire, hog panels and a whole large roll of
shade cloth.
Just did a collection of junk around my five acres that when put together will make a
very fine 250 gallon towable mixer.
Now I could use any available info on making a 24" S shaped blade.
I like the idea of an S shaped blade and that is the only thing I have not found laying
around YET.
Alan in Michigan

--- On Tue, 7/24/12, liberty1_27606 <liberty1@gmail.com> wrote:

From: liberty1_27606 <liberty1@gmail.com>
Subject: [papercreters] Re: Slip Form Follow-up Question
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 24, 2012, 2:47 PM



Dan,

(From reading others experience, not personal experience.)

To get the quick drying time, you will need to make small blocks.  Maybe no more than 3 inches thick.

You will not be able to dry your roof elements in time, so to get the prototype built, you will need to use 2x4s, fiberglass insulation, tin roofing, etc for the roof.  I hope to build a papercrete roof system, so I think that is possible, but it will require lengthy drying time.

I believe small blocks would work for the floor and walls.  I believe that the floor would not be walkable, but could provide the R value you need.  Maybe you could put down temporary boards to walk on when loading and unloading the kiln.

To improve the drainage from PC blocks, some people use shade cloth on the ground and then put the blocks on top.  I would suggest trying 6" welded wire mesh, topped with 1" welded wire mesh, topped with two layers of shade cloth. (If you try something to improve drainage and drying, please let us know how it works. I am in a humid environment also and need to work out a way to dry blocks.)

Good luck. Please let us know what you try and what your results are.

Bobby

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, "trendawareness" <trendlinesystems@...> wrote:
>
> In response to my earlier questions, the slip-forming proponents have indicated that it's the only way to make large blocks or wall units in a humid environment.
>
> My understanding is that a slip-formed wall unit will be usable within a day or two after the final layer has been poured.
>
> With that said, I've started to assemble some framework for my wall panels that I'll fill-in with papercrete using slip-forming techniques. 
>
> But my project also requires highly insulated 5' L x 5' W x 1' H horizontally oriented panels.
>
> My question is, being in a humid environment, what's the best way to make a large, horizontal, papercrete component?   
>
> Can I make them vertically using slip-forming techniques then roll it horizontally? 
>
> If so, do I need to wait several weeks for the unit to dry, or being slip formed, can a unit be placed horizontally after a few days?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan
>




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