Saturday, July 28, 2012

Re: [papercreters] pannels



Thanks for responding and the info Ron, I will remove the brakes.  I am making a tow mixer from a fiberglass tank .  It could hold 350 gallons but I am not sure what is safe for the axle to carry?; small pic up truck.  I am building it extremely strong. and I will send pics and eventually videos of production station.  I am building the slabs to put up against a post and beam 1000 sq' building.  The slab walls will not be supporting any weight.  I am thinking of putting a 3' by 8' by3 1/2" thick pc slab wall on the inside and outside of the 6" post. The post will be about12' apart along the edge of the concrete slab foundation.  I am not using any sand except on the stucco so the pc slabs can be lifted easier or cut if need be.   I am familiar with construction and have thought out all kinds of the details. My wall at the moment of planning, will be three and a half inches thick on the inside and the same on the outside separated by the six inches of space that the six inch post takes. That is two separate walls.  The reinforcement would be between the two walls connecting them to make them back each other up.  I have thought about making pc post to reinforce the pc pannel between the 12" post.  I have even thought of putting the slabs horizontal.  I will be working on a large ranch with some equipment available. I know it is some times hard to visualize what people explain here so I hope I have painted a clear enough picture.  Thanks  Mike    South Texas                                                   


From: Ron Richter <ronerichter@yahoo.com>
To: "papercreters@yahoogroups.com" <papercreters@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:25 PM
Subject:Three and a half thick Re: [papercreters] pannelputting some reenforcements



Michael,
You mention you are building a mixer.  Is it a tow mixer?  If it is, take the break shoes out of the hubs.  I built a towmixer 9 years ago, and made 50 or so batches with it during the summers then one day I had a load in and was going down the driveway when one of the tires seized up.  Since I had used it a couple of years without checking wether the differential was full of oil I thought Uh Oh I have a bad bearing.  Well I wanted to re-make the mixer anyway so my tub was closer to the ground, so I tore the whole thing apart to the bare axle and started to remove the suspect side to replace the bearing.  I ended up having to use a "hot wrench" on it because I couldn't get the brake drum off without heat.  I had to beat it all the way off and there was not a thing wrong with the bearings it was a dragging shoe that was causing the problem.  With a tow mixer attached to the vehicle you don't need breaks anyway so take them out to prevent future headaches.  Also, after all your welding is done, find the vent hole and use it to completely fill the cavity with oil.  Since towmixer speeds are rarely over 10 mph any rear end will last a lifetime if the oil is checked sporadically.  

When you say no structural support, do you mean the PC needs none, or you are not putting any in the wall?  If you are asking if you want to know the thickness of a PC wall that will support a roof, then there are a number of questions you must ask yourself.  How do you anticipate delivering the stress of a roof to the foundation?   What kind of foundation are you using?  How much insulation do you need?  Is this going to be a lived in structure?  Do you live in a high wind, snow, heavy rain area?  In order to answer your question well, these details would be important. 

Good luck with your project, and send us pictures.
Ron


From: michael joyce <mojojoyce@yahoo.com>
To: "papercreters@yahoogroups.com" <papercreters@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:26 PM
Subject: [papercreters] pannels

 
I am looking to make 8' wall panels and was wondering what was the thinnest you could make them and not be breakable, no structural support just for walls.  Also wanted to know what to put under the pour, just garden mesh or plywood bottom.     Am building mixer with fiberglass tank will send pics when done.   Thanks Michael     south TX.








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