[papercreters] Reinforcing - was - tiltup

There's GOT to be a tipping point for reinforcing in papercrete.  Is the tipping point thickness?  Is it composition of the reinforcing material?  If papercrete doesn't stick to much, would natural fiber reinforcing, like jute, be the answer?  Or is it thickness?  Is it fiber AND thickness?  I've been pondering this for a while

 

If papercrete backs away from rebar, does it back away from chicken wire?  Is chicken wire small enough to allow the papercrete fibers to maintain adherence to each other around the circumference of the wire?

 

We need to do testing to determine what reinforcing works and what doesn't for those of us who aren't doing blocks.  Maybe layers of chicken wire is the answer . . . maybe fiber netting . . . At one point I toyed with using recycled fish nets as reinforcing.  I really like this idea.  It would be no problem to slipform with netting suspended inside the forms.  I also toyed with using the netting they use to hold round bales together.  I REALLY like this idea.  It comes in different strengths.  I just need to find someone locally who uses the strong stuff so I can build the pumphouse using this mesh as the interior reinforcing without having to buy an entire (nearly a mile of netting) roll.

 

Additionally, I'd like to be able to pour reinforced panels only 3" or 4" thick.  With reinforcing the wall panels might be strong enough to be used as room dividers in interior spaces . . . I really like this idea.  I don't want a bunch of my interior space taken up by thick walls.  I already have thermal mass in the floor and exterior walls.  In our mild climate I don't need it in the interior walls as well.

 

If I won the lotto I would want to try lots of things.  I could have SO much fun . . . The draw to papercrete isn't so much it's inexpensive . . . though that's certainly a plus.  It's the challenge of the material, the puzzle solving . . . the "what if."

 

ElfN

----- Original Message -----

From: slurryguy

Another alternative is to add some kind of reinforcement to help keep
the panel together. The difficulty with this approach is that
papercrete tends to shrink away from things like rebar as it dries.

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