Monday, September 10, 2007

[papercreters] Re: Reinforcing - was - tilt up

My original post was shredded into several threads so I guess I will
reply to each one separately.

Keep in mind I am new to this papercrete thing but I do have about
20years under my belt in concrete and masonry.

My concrete experience tells me that inserting some type of netting
into a panel form (were talking precast tilt-ups now) would have to
give it some strength. I'm having a hard time understanding why its
said that PC will not stick to anything in the form such as
rebar,etc. I would think given this "emulsion" that is created in the
mixing it would not be able to pull itself away from a small cell
chicken wire or what I was thinking of was either bird netting or
insulation netting. What is the goal here with the reinforcement
issue? I doubt this stuff will ever be able to be self supporting
over a span either vertically (as a wall)or horizontally (as a slab).

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, "ElfNori" <elf@...> wrote:
>
> <nods> And if I back my pickup into my wall, how much difference
will having the entire building slipformed around netting make?
Obviously, more testing required.
>
> N
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: thesilentchamber
> To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 6:44 PM
> Subject: [papercreters] Re: Reinforcing - was - tiltup
>
>
> "I have hit papercrete panels with a 12 pound sledge hammer when
> trying to break them up, and all it did was bounce off"
>
> What was the thickness and span of these panels, and was was
behind
> them? As for the small piece cast in cheese container, think of
it
> like this... you take a pencil and cut a 1/2" piece off the end
of it
> and try to break it, I'll give you a dollar if you can do it with
your
> bare hand. Now take the whole length pencil.. snaps no problem.
Its a
> matter of thickness relative to size and the spacing of the
> reinforment (if any).
>
>
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