Wednesday, July 4, 2007

[papercreters] un-Silly questions

The only truly silly papercrete questions are the ones that don't get
asked. Once they're asked, they magically transform into good
questions. Don't believe me? Check the papercreters glossary in the
files section.

The change in color should certainly make a difference. Whether or
not it's "huge" is a matter of perspective. I know roof shingle
color in traditional structures can change attic temperatures 30 deg
or more in many cases. The less venting in the attic the more impact
shingle color has. In Mikey's case, a container with effectively
zero ventilation and one of the highest thermally conductive
wall/roof materials out there (metal), the change in color will
probably have the maximum impact a color change can have.

Here's an interesting study about roof shingle color:
<http://www.fsec.ucf.edu/en/publications/html/FSEC-PF-336-
98/index.htm>

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, Leslea <leslea_kate@...> wrote:
>
> Silly question... Wouldn't going from a dark blue, to light grey,
near white
> with the PC make a huge difference for the temp too?
>
> I can see where once the PC is a little thicker, it'll drop the
temp to a nice
> reasonable level though.
>
> Leslea
>
>
> --- Mikey Sklar <sklarm-yahoo@...> wrote:
> >
> > The PC latex mix seemed to work great on the containers. It is
sticking
> > very well. The wall temperature has dropped from 140 to 110 with
only a
> > 1/4" of stucco. I highly recommend this technique combined with
> > papercrete blocks on the roof to lower the temperature of these
> > containers. If you wanted to live in them, I would recommend
insulating
> > with 10"+ of PC. I used 16" in my case and can keep the container
> > temperature at 90F even only 100F day with no cooling or
ventilation.
> >
> > BTW, if you are curious about your own insulation effectiveness I
highly
> > recommend getting a infrared remote laser thermometer to measure
you
> > wall temperatures. This is a excellent tool for finding hot spots
and
> > cold spots in a given structure.
> >
> > MT4 Mini Temp Non-Contact Thermometer Gun with Laser Sighting
> >
> http://www.amazon.com/MT4-Non-Contact-Thermometer-Laser-
Sighting/dp/B00069V306/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/104-8420547-5896708?
ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1183557807&sr=8-2
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 01:41:10PM -0000, slurryguy wrote:
> > > Mikey, in your container spraying video, you mention a desire
to
> > > control temperatures inside the container.
> > >
> > > Did you happen to stick a thermometer inside the container and
take
> > > some before/after readings? Some compainion outside temps
would make
> > > it even more interesting. (Is my inner geek showing?)
>
>
> Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people.
Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at
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>

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