Tuesday, July 31, 2007

Re: [papercreters] Re: Papercrete Building Code Nomination

What already approved building codes are close to what we want implemented for papercrete?  I know adobe is close.
 
One of the hurdles we must master is the huge variety of recipes available to papercrete.  There has to be a way to settle on an *ideal* recipe or recipes for a given application and area.  If the best recipe for the NW (my area of interest) is x#paper, xgalWater, xgalLatex, x#sand, xadditive1, xadditive2, then its performance becomes the benchmark all other recipes for that application in the NW.  In Texas, the recipe may not be the same.  Can we come up with a *one best recipe* for infill that will be used standardly for blocks?  For slipform?
 
As I stated previously, I think we need to handle infill, insulation, structural and stucco (and whatever else) separately.  I would start with ONE type application, using a single recipe, using established code as the guideline.  If we keep it clean and clear to start, stating we're trying to get just this approved, it gives us a launching point/stepping stone for the next thing.
 
Those of us who live in counties that will permit experimental really need this potential code to work from, to present to our permit department and we need to build exactly to this proposed code so our building department takes us seriously AND so we have established buildings to work as examples for coding purposes.
 
So, my advice is to pick one part of building with papercrete, use established code as a working example, and write that code.  Start with block and slipformed infill as those will be the easiest to get accepted into code (?).  Staying focused on one aspect of papercrete is a logical starting point.
 
ElfN
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 6:56 AM
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Re: Papercrete Building Code Nomination

I about fell out of my chair, then a wave of energy came over me that resounded the truth of everything you just said. It has been the dream that has added fuel to my endeavors from the start.
 
Where to start?  We need ElfNori's organizational skills to start. Slurryguys technical input as always, and Ernies out the box ways of tackling roadblocks.  In fact we need everyone.  Call to arms folks.
 
Some basics:
Sample Building codes of various materials.
Outline of the process.
Breakdown of teams.
More recipe posts.
Geological Engineer's Analysis or similar data.
 
I am so appreciative of this offer. I hope everyone will reap the benefit of what we are about to accomplish.
 
Sincerely,
Chris Portell
 
----- Original Message -----
From: slurryguy
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 6:54 AM
Subject: [papercreters] Re: Papercrete Building Code Nomination

Thanks Ernie!

Good man.

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, "Ernie Phelps" <eepjr24@...> wrote:
>
> --- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, Jay Hawk <slurryguy@> wrote:
> >
> > Who here is willing to help Chris? Who will step up and make
this
> work?
> >
> > slurryguy <--------one volunteer willing to help
>
> Ernie Phelps.
>
> I am willing to help. I am decent with research, juggling and
> organizing numbers, charts, and I can find stuff on the web pretty
> well (MSDS, case studies of similar materials, definitions, etc).
>
> Let me know how I can help.
>

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