Monday, September 10, 2007

[papercreters] Re: Reinforcing - was - tilt up

If I were in your position I would securely tie (wire) discarded
industrial grade carpet to the fencing. Then I would trowel/ or shoot a
primer coat of F/C thru the wire and up against the carpets backing.
When that tacked up I would come around to the other side and shoot the
carpet straight on. At this point you will have a form that subsequent
layers can be added to. Because this system is a hybrid of ferro-cement
you will also have an incredibly strong wall. By the way... if on your
final coat you add a lot of discarded latex paint... the water
resistence will increase.

Bob M.
--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, "unofornaio" <unofornaio@...>
wrote:
>
> My original post was shredded into several threads so I guess I will
> reply to each one separately.
>
> Keep in mind I am new to this papercrete thing but I do have about
> 20years under my belt in concrete and masonry.
>
> My concrete experience tells me that inserting some type of netting
> into a panel form (were talking precast tilt-ups now) would have to
> give it some strength. I'm having a hard time understanding why its
> said that PC will not stick to anything in the form such as
> rebar,etc. I would think given this "emulsion" that is created in the
> mixing it would not be able to pull itself away from a small cell
> chicken wire or what I was thinking of was either bird netting or
> insulation netting. What is the goal here with the reinforcement
> issue? I doubt this stuff will ever be able to be self supporting
> over a span either vertically (as a wall)or horizontally (as a slab).
>
> --- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, "ElfNori" elf@ wrote:
> >
> > <nods> And if I back my pickup into my wall, how much difference
> will having the entire building slipformed around netting make?
> Obviously, more testing required.
> >
> > N
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: thesilentchamber
> > To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 6:44 PM
> > Subject: [papercreters] Re: Reinforcing - was - tiltup
> >
> >
> > "I have hit papercrete panels with a 12 pound sledge hammer when
> > trying to break them up, and all it did was bounce off"
> >
> > What was the thickness and span of these panels, and was was
> behind
> > them? As for the small piece cast in cheese container, think of
> it
> > like this... you take a pencil and cut a 1/2" piece off the end
> of it
> > and try to break it, I'll give you a dollar if you can do it with
> your
> > bare hand. Now take the whole length pencil.. snaps no problem.
> Its a
> > matter of thickness relative to size and the spacing of the
> > reinforment (if any).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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