Friday, July 6, 2007

Re: [papercreters] horsepucky was: ....... some photos

Bravo!!

Now to find a local riding stable where they have mountains of pucky to
use in "excrete"....... great name!
Seriously though it could be a valuable fiber source for building, it
is very fiberous, and well processed, and would take little to liquify.

Howard

Spaceman wrote:
> Excrete?
>
>
> bob@4agoodauction.com wrote:
>> Prickly pear dung crete?Would that be called Cretan?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* ken bolin <mailto:bornofthehorses@yahoo.com>
>> *To:* papercreters@yahoogroups.com <mailto:papercreters@yahoogroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 06, 2007 1:47 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [papercreters] horsepucky was: ....... some photos
>>
>> Another use that might fit your bill is mix it with your pc. Some of the
>> guys in N.M. use mule droppings in their mix. Not having horses or mules
>> anymore I use pricky pear juice. Just a thought.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> */Stone Tool <owly@ttc-cmc.net <mailto:owly@ttc-cmc.net>>/* wrote:
>>
>> Alfalfa hay would as Spaceman wrote .... not make good building
>> material... though after being "processed" by a horse if you could
>> figure out how to bale or block it, it might be quite a good material.
>> A horse has the ability to get the minimum... soft material only....
>> out of feed, leaving the tough cellulose fiber behind in a form known as
>> "pucky" as in "horse pucky". ;-)
>> I propose using horses to produce building material by mixing type S
>> lime with their feed and inducing them to deposit their pucky in a
>> suitable mold....... or perhaps simply into a mixer to make "pucko". In
>> a mold the result would be "puckyblocks", a high R value low density
>> semi rigid material which could be used like brick for building.
>> In modern society the horse is an anachronism...... seldom ridden or
>> used as a beast of burden, eaten, or anything else. Millions of hoses
>> live out their miserable lives in small so called suburban "pastures"
>> ridden once or twice a year... perhaps a little more, eating hay and
>> producing prodigious amounts of "pucky"...... Around here it's a bit
>> different....... they ride around in horse trailers and often are used
>> daily in ranching where the rough country makes them slightly superior
>> to the four wheeler. The urban horse just as well be making a real
>> contribution to society. The puckyblock could be that contribution.
>>
>> Seriously though...... I intend to use low grade year old dryland grass
>> hay rather than actual straw. It is very similar to straw. very course,
>> little "leaf" matter, and highly stemmy, very like straw, at a bit under
>> twice the weight.
>> Lest we get into the standard "hay is food" discussion .......this is
>> NOT at all similar to what urbanians think of when they use the word
>> "hay"........ we actually feed quite a bit of straw to cattle hereabouts
>> in winter due to the low cost, low protein / high carbohydrate content
>> that produces heat without wasting quality feed. Beef cattle that live
>> outdoors all their lives......... being indoors perhaps shortly after
>> birth if it is -30 and blowing and they have to be kept alive until
>> mama's milk kicks in and starts generating heat......... and perhaps for
>> a few moments just before being "taken down" in the abattoir..... at the
>> other end of life.
>>
>> Howard
>>
>> Joyce E wrote:
>> > Not thinking about building, thinking about feeding it to my critters:
>> > ponies and goats. I could never do without them...
>> >
>> > :-) Joyce
>> >
>> > Spaceman wrote:
>> >> No hay here. You can get alfalfa for over $5 per bale if you go to the
>> >> river valley, but that's not good for straw bale building. I suppose
>> >> you could have straw bales shipped in from the midwest.
>> >>
>> >> Spaceman
>> >>
>> >> Joyce E wrote:
>> >>> Save that the DH has grown roots here, I think it'd be nice to move
>> >>> to Texas. How are hay prices in your neck o' th' woods?
>> >>>
>> >>> Joyce
>> >>>
>> >>> Spaceman wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Yep, El Paso County is bigger than many states, and Hudspeth County
>> >>>> next door is bigger than many small countries. I wasn't born in
>> Texas,
>> >>>> but I got here as fast as I could!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Spaceman
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >
>> >
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