Re: [papercreters] Alternative ways to mix papercrete

Hi y'all,
We use a big 3 yard cement mixer...
Here's how we roll...
Put in 35 lbs of shredded paper (from the recycle center) w 40 shovel fulls of sand and about 5 mins of water from the hose.
Tumble it around for 20 mins or so.
Let it sit overnight
In the morning add a bag of portalnd (94 lbs)
a 5 gallon bucket of pozzlon (Aka metacalin) <neither one spelled correctly I'm sure>
and about 15 more shovels of sand
Set the mixer to spin
Add water till you have kinda runny-cookie-dough consistency. or like crunchy peanut butter
Spin for around 30 mins and you've got some super duper papercrete mortar or plaster.
Yippee.
Alaine...

On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 2:06 AM, Oystein Tandberg <oystein_tandberg@yahoo.no> wrote:

 

Thanks spaceman,   reg. cement mixer, I can borrow one for free, so if that works I'll give it a go. I reasoned with myself that using a drill and a plaster mixer would't be powerful enough -  I guess "easy does it".     I can see how shredded paper would be a big plus - I've made some batches with newspapers that have soaked for over a month; foul smell, and they are just as difficult to pulp as papers that have soaked for a minute.. But, once mixed with cement, the smell dissapairs.. Papercrete is great:-)                 Fra: spaceman Spaceman@starship-enterprises.net   I can't imagine mixing with a shovel, that has to be a back breaker for sure. A cement mixer will eventually work, but in my experience it takes a lot of time compared to just about any other method, and is a big energy hog for the pc you get. Shredded paper would help. With that same bucket you might try an inexpensive plaster/mud mixer blade, from just about any hardware store. It chucks into a drill, the more powerful the better, and will pulp the paper while helping you build up your biceps, lats, and abs :)  A few years back a couple of grandmothers posted that they were using a plaster blade in a drill press, with a bucket. I bought my drill press from Harbor Freight a couple of years ago for $35, so if you can find a sale like that then you're mixing for less than $50 with the plaster blade. Another way is with a power spray washer. Curtis (on this list) did this years ago, and showed me. There are videos at http://www.starship-enterprises.net/files/MVI_0001.AVI http://www.starship-enterprises.net/files/MVI_0002.AVI  and http://www.starship-enterprises.net/files/MVI_0004.AVI. If #2 doesn't work, try http://www.starship-enterprises.net/files/MVI_fixed_0002.mpg.  I bought an expensive washer, and it worked great, but since then I have talked with a couple of people who say one of the cheaper $100+ 1,200psi washers like you can get at Harbor Freight work fine with a zero degree nozzle or a rotating nozzle even better. that's a lot cheaper than a tow mixer. Hum, that's the second time I mentioned HF, I have no affiliation with them, just that they are a source of cheap (and CHEAP) tools. The scissors mixer I recently made (http://www.starship-enterprises.net/ScissorsDrumMixer/) is another way to go that you could possibly have made by someone who welds, for the cost of a few hours of work.  Mine is being revised since Charmaine posted photo and a good description of the original by Mike McCain. Mine is a bit too large and robust, and I'm remaking it on a smaller scale. spaceman On 10/16/2012 3:00 PM, Oystein Tandberg wrote: Greetings, I'm currently mixing papercrete with a shovel, I soak newspapers for a while in a 60 liter bucket, and then use a shovel (it takes forever..); I'm in no position to build any of the mixers I've seen used here - can I use a cement mixer, or are there any other ways? best regards     ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/papercreters/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/papercreters/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: papercreters-digest@yahoogroups.com papercreters-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: papercreters-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2741 / Virus Database: 2614/5833 - Release Date: 10/15/12

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