Thursday, March 22, 2012

Re: [papercreters] What can you see that has been done wrong on this building?

Hi Folks,

Water vapor will rise and find it's way out. A tarp with no vents will hold
moisture and could cause a problem. Where is the mold the worst. I have
covered cars with a tarp and they rusted in a semiarid location.

Bob


On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:20:00 -0000
"JayH" <slurryguy@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> I have a two photos of a papercrete building. I have blacked out the
> person standing in front in one photo to protect their identity. I have
> no desire to embarrass anyone, but I also think it is important for
> those of us interested in papercrete to look carefully at how we build.
> We need to learn from each others mistakes and improve what we do.
> Ignoring problems is not the answer.
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> This group needs to have open and honest discussions of problems, and
> how to prevent them from happening. That is the subject of this thread.
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>For those that may be aware of this structure, please do not reveal who
> the owner is, who built it, or specifically where it is located.
> Instead, everyone please post about what went wrong, and what could have
> been done better to avoid problems.
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> Here is a photo of the building under construction:
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> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/papercreters/photos/album/853783213/pic/99\
> 806098/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/papercreters/photos/album/853783213/pic/9\
> 9806098/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc>
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> Here is a photo of the completed building, after it was completed.
> You'll notice a huge tarp draped over the structure. This tarp was not
> originally part of the design. It was put up because the EDPM membrane
> that was originally intended to waterproof the structure caused
> problems.
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> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/papercreters/photos/album/853783213/pic/15\
> 01402719/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/papercreters/photos/album/853783213/pic/1\
> 501402719/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc>
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> This building has had major mold problems. It is still inhabited.
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> There are many details that can be seen in the photos that give clues as
> to why this building had problems. Granted, there are many details that
> the photos do not reveal. While I won't be specific about where it is,
> I will reveal that it is in a high desert climate.
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> That's right. Mold problems in the desert.
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> How many construction errors can you detect? What steps do you see that
> could have been done differently during construction to prevent
> problems?
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> Remember... talk about the structure itself, and not about the people
> who own it or built it. No need to get personal.
>

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