Re: [papercreters] Re: Earthbag, Superadobe, Hiperdobe, why not Hiperpapercrete?

Maybe, an alternative. This is net wrap, used by hay farmers to wrap large round bales. I know that they can contain 1200-1600# of hay in a compressed bale. Used stuff probably isn't a good option. I've tried saving it and you need an act of congress to get it off with out tangling it up. New, though, it could be laid out and the filling be placed down the center of the 4' width and then, fold the sides up and overlapped.  I built a bagged earth wall, determined to make something that draft horses couldn't destroy and intended to use papercrete to turn it into a solid wall. I never got there but, driving rebar posts for stability, barbed wire between the layers and used net wrap crammed in any holes,  I was able to make a small wall that the itches couldn't move. I coated the whole thing with AE so it wouldn't rot while I was getting around to attempting papercrete. It is still standing. Aside from the AE, all recycled materials. Hay farmers use it. It can't be expensive. One link for the net wrap: http://www.ambraco.com/BaleNetwrap/TamaNet_EdegToEdgeWithTamaTech_Netwrap.php Clarissa Peace and Harmony or Else --- On Wed, 3/14/12, JayH <slurryguy@yahoo.com> wrote: From: JayH <slurryguy@yahoo.com> Subject: [papercreters] Re: Earthbag, Superadobe, Hiperdobe, why not Hiperpapercrete? To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 14, 2012, 10:21 AM   Judith, you may want to ask around locally. Pay attention to what business handle a lot of produce or other materials that come in bags. Think about grocery stores, farmers/ranchers, resturants, school kitchens, and places like that. You might find a local source of used bags. While I doubt you will find much in the way of used tubes, you can still use the bags in the same way. The key would be to find a local supply of enough netting style bags and get them to save the bags for you. It is best if the bags are kept out of sunlight. The UV radiation can cause them to break down and become weak. Don't neglect the details such as where your source of bags will be storing them until you pick them up. If the bags are just tossed into a bin outside and exposed, the bags may be worthless before you get them. --- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, JUDITH WILLIAMS <williams_judith@...> wrote: > > > I looked into this a while back and I think what stopped me from going ahead with it was the price. When I looked up sources I found there were huge minimum orders. Maybe you would need a huge amount of the knit raschal. I don't know how to estimate that. Anyway, I like the idea and would give it a try. You would have to make domes with it though or the walls would fall in without some sort of buttress. If I could get some of the knit stuff easily I would probably try it for a garden wall filling the first course with pumice in stead of papercrete. the video has good music. > >

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