Monday, March 10, 2008

Re: [papercreters] Re: using panels as wall

    If I was building a house, or other habitable structure, I'd use minimal post and beam to hold the roof up, with an engineered lumber bond beam on top of the posts; secondly I'd put the roof on; then I'd slip form walls with poured papercrete, which skips the whole block making process of several thousand blocks, depending on block and house size. This can be done on most parts of a wall with cheap, 2' x 8' quarter-inch paneling. Wall thickness spacers are necessary for the top of the forms; the bottoms just deck screw into the previous pour, which should be dried a day or two. One can pour 18" at a time this way; just cut 2' x 4' whatever lengthwise for forms; sanding, and spray or brush oiling the forms reduces papercrete sticking. Depending on one's interior floor, inside walls can also be slipformed. 
    I'd use custom forms (perhaps 1/2" plywood) for the bottom pour,  with a horizontal 2" x 2" board at a height of 12" above the inside floor, for a wiring channel around all sides of a room; one could also use a 2" x 2" vertical board where one needed light switches; this saves a tremendous amount of time cutting wiring channels. Plumbing channels can also be preformed. I've even built a 9' jig for wall building.   
 
Bob "Trekker"
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In a message dated 3/10/2008 7:17:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, eepjr24@gmail.com writes:

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, "Mahyar" <mahyar_ace@...> wrote:
>
> can one use panels(big ones) as prebuilt walls instead of breaks?
> what would be the thickness of the preferred panel?

Certainly you can cast PC in panels for use in non-structural
(divider) walls. With no tests available to me, I can't be certain,
but I would bet they make very good soundproofing. I would say
thickness would vary by application. I would probably go with 1.5-2"
thick panels to start with, and sandwich two of them together with
space between for conduit and to make outlet placement viable.

Obviously, my post is merely speculation. It would be great if one of
the folks with practical experience in PC walls would chime in.

- Ernie




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