Saturday, February 22, 2014

Re: [papercreters] PLANS FOR SUMMER NM PLASTER



share away on any of the photos I took :)


On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 4:04 PM, spaceman <Spaceman@starship-enterprises.net> wrote:
 

Both those links are websites with java running for slideshows. Any modern browser should do fine as long as you have scripts enabled. What are you using for access?

I don't know if it works mobile, I guess it would depend on the device and its browser.

You can directly access Evelyn's shots at http://www.starship-enterprises.net/pcgathering1/evelynspix/slides/ but you'll have to click to view each one individually. Click the .jpg, if you click the html files it'll want to run java. I ask that everyone please refrain from downloading them unless you get Evelyn's permission, they are all copyrighted in her name.

The ones I took are not accessible this way because they are in a 3D format that needs the java.



On 2/22/2014 3:18 PM, Charmaine Taylor wrote:

Spaceman I can't open the pics or link you shared




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RE: [papercreters] PLANS FOR SUMMER NM PLASTER



Thanks Charmaine< I always think of you as the most experienced one. I so much appreciate the input on expenses. One thing I really need to do before all of this happens is make sure the neighbor turns my water back on. I heard through a 3rd party that he shut it off because a pipe was leaking. Also I am pretty sure my mixer is toast. I do have an alternate plan though.I am shooting for early June so as to beat the heat and the monsoons. I have sort of abandoned the place and notice things are deteriorating. Who is it that took pics and would not share? That is not allowed on my projects. We all share. Anyway gotta go. Thanks again and keep in touch. I'm headed to no wifi zone for a couple of days


To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
From: charmainertaylor@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 14:18:57 -0800
Subject: [papercreters] PLANS FOR SUMMER NM PLASTER

 

Judith I will email you off list.  

Yes Kaolin clay may work,  people SHOULD be expected to pay for their food, and bring tent/bedroll/any special needs, work clothes.

you are not a charity, and even if you are getting the help, they get experience not found elsewhere especially from one as experienced as you. Thats one reason I want to come

When you did the last one I offered to post a report on it, but the guy who recorded some of it refused to share photos or info (some college teacher who mistrusted my intent unfortunately) 

Spaceman I can't open the pics or link you shared

I've seen/participated in  many SB/Ferro/StrayClay etc  teaching events, workshops and classes on jobsites, and it is normal to pay your own way and not expect the host to cover. 

I can sleep in my Subaru, and if you  arrange buying food/ related materials we should be able to pay you before or upon arrival.

I hate the heat, so before the  hot part is best--or late summer?


we can figure it out

 everyone needs to be an independent spirit with willing hands, a few Ive seen expected a city level indoor seminar with no work on their part. The leader ended up working almost by herself  to plaster a 1400 sq ft bale dome while  lazy ones sat and smoked pot and discussed the beauty of natural building… they liked the theory over practice…(but this is Humboldt County so that was the norm)  I know this group isn't like that...

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Charmaine

Charmaine Taylor/Publishing & Elk River Press
PO Box 375 Cutten CA 95534
www.papercrete.com

Some people forget that their beliefs don't make them a better person. 
*Their behavior does*

"Have courage for the great sorrows of life and patience for the small ones. And when you have laboriously accomplised your daily task, go to sleep in peace. God is awake." 
(Victor Hugo, 1802-1885)
 
 



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Re: [papercreters] PLANS FOR SUMMER NM PLASTER



Both those links are websites with java running for slideshows. Any modern browser should do fine as long as you have scripts enabled. What are you using for access?

I don't know if it works mobile, I guess it would depend on the device and its browser.

You can directly access Evelyn's shots at http://www.starship-enterprises.net/pcgathering1/evelynspix/slides/ but you'll have to click to view each one individually. Click the .jpg, if you click the html files it'll want to run java. I ask that everyone please refrain from downloading them unless you get Evelyn's permission, they are all copyrighted in her name.

The ones I took are not accessible this way because they are in a 3D format that needs the java.

On 2/22/2014 3:18 PM, Charmaine Taylor wrote:

Spaceman I can't open the pics or link you shared



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[papercreters] PLANS FOR SUMMER NM PLASTER



Judith I will email you off list.  

Yes Kaolin clay may work,  people SHOULD be expected to pay for their food, and bring tent/bedroll/any special needs, work clothes.

you are not a charity, and even if you are getting the help, they get experience not found elsewhere especially from one as experienced as you. Thats one reason I want to come

When you did the last one I offered to post a report on it, but the guy who recorded some of it refused to share photos or info (some college teacher who mistrusted my intent unfortunately) 

Spaceman I can't open the pics or link you shared

I've seen/participated in  many SB/Ferro/StrayClay etc  teaching events, workshops and classes on jobsites, and it is normal to pay your own way and not expect the host to cover. 

I can sleep in my Subaru, and if you  arrange buying food/ related materials we should be able to pay you before or upon arrival.

I hate the heat, so before the  hot part is best--or late summer?


we can figure it out

 everyone needs to be an independent spirit with willing hands, a few Ive seen expected a city level indoor seminar with no work on their part. The leader ended up working almost by herself  to plaster a 1400 sq ft bale dome while  lazy ones sat and smoked pot and discussed the beauty of natural building… they liked the theory over practice…(but this is Humboldt County so that was the norm)  I know this group isn't like that...

--
Charmaine

Charmaine Taylor/Publishing & Elk River Press
PO Box 375 Cutten CA 95534
www.papercrete.com

Some people forget that their beliefs don't make them a better person. 
*Their behavior does*

"Have courage for the great sorrows of life and patience for the small ones. And when you have laboriously accomplised your daily task, go to sleep in peace. God is awake." 
(Victor Hugo, 1802-1885)
 
 



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Friday, February 21, 2014

RE: [papercreters] SUMMER VOLUNTEERS- NM



Since I saw Charmaine's message this morning I have been thinking about how and when to do this. Ideally the sooner the better but of course after the windy season. I had someone come out a few years ago in April and we hardly had a good day to work with the wind and snow. So late May or June would be best, before the monsoons. I also have to plan a place for people to stay as the plan is to have those trailers I lived in hauled away. If they were still there (which an early date would ensure) then I could probably work out something with the owner. I do not want to take any money for this gathering but will have to figure out the expenses both for materials and food. I am very open to suggestions. My neighbor up on the mesa may let us park some campers and hook up  to his electricity for a few days but on the other hand he may still be mad at me for something that happened a few months ago. No need to go there Emoji. So that's where I am with it. I am a notoriously bad organizer and planner so will accept with appreciation any and all suggestions.


To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
From: Spaceman@starship-enterprises.net
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 14:20:49 -0700
Subject: Re: [papercreters] SUMMER VOLUNTEERS- NM

 
That was a fun gathering in a beautiful place...

http://starship-enterprises.net/pcgathering1/evelynspix/

http://starship-enterprises.net/pcgathering1/


On 2/21/2014 12:52 PM, Charmaine Taylor wrote:
Hi Judith-  I'd be very interested to come out..my schedule is open, I am retired now, there are some serious limits on physical ability, but I have 3 good hours a day,(and 2 more after a nap)  and can help  in any way except heavy lifting or high on ladders.

I can bring my written recipe mixes+ samples or send them in advance for testing, I LOVE plastering walls, my favorite part.

I need an excuse to start traveling.

PS to other Crete-friendly folk --she held a workshop years ago and several attended and I was sorry to have missed it..hands on, no matter your experience is the best way to learn.
--
Charmaine

Charmaine Taylor/Publishing & Elk River Press
PO Box 375 Cutten CA 95534
www.papercrete.com

Some people forget that their beliefs don't make them a better person. 
*Their behavior does*

"Have courage for the great sorrows of life and patience for the small ones. And when you have laboriously accomplised your daily task, go to sleep in peace. God is awake." 
(Victor Hugo, 1802-1885)
 
 

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Re: [papercreters] SUMMER VOLUNTEERS- NM



That was a fun gathering in a beautiful place...

http://starship-enterprises.net/pcgathering1/evelynspix/

http://starship-enterprises.net/pcgathering1/

On 2/21/2014 12:52 PM, Charmaine Taylor wrote:
Hi Judith-  I'd be very interested to come out..my schedule is open, I am retired now, there are some serious limits on physical ability, but I have 3 good hours a day,(and 2 more after a nap)  and can help  in any way except heavy lifting or high on ladders.

I can bring my written recipe mixes+ samples or send them in advance for testing, I LOVE plastering walls, my favorite part.

I need an excuse to start traveling.

PS to other Crete-friendly folk --she held a workshop years ago and several attended and I was sorry to have missed it..hands on, no matter your experience is the best way to learn.
--
Charmaine

Charmaine Taylor/Publishing & Elk River Press
PO Box 375 Cutten CA 95534
www.papercrete.com

Some people forget that their beliefs don't make them a better person. 
*Their behavior does*

"Have courage for the great sorrows of life and patience for the small ones. And when you have laboriously accomplised your daily task, go to sleep in peace. God is awake." 
(Victor Hugo, 1802-1885)
 
 

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RE: [papercreters] SUMMER VOLUNTEERS- NM



Thanks so much Charmaine. I would be honored to have you and your recipes here. I am the very initial stages of planning this thing and have no idea where it is going. The place I lived in when I had that workshop my not be available to me after May of this year and there are no facilities where the project is so I will need to do something about that. And in general I am very bad at planning things so this is a bit of a challenge. But I guess I better start doing something serious as I have had a few positive responses and would love to get these buildings protected with plaster before any real damage occurs. If you get a minute could you please send a list of things I will need to get for the plaster? I have a lot of bags of kaolin clay. Will that be of any use?


To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
From: charmainertaylor@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 11:52:24 -0800
Subject: [papercreters] SUMMER VOLUNTEERS- NM

 

Hi Judith-  I'd be very interested to come out..my schedule is open, I am retired now, there are some serious limits on physical ability, but I have 3 good hours a day,(and 2 more after a nap)  and can help  in any way except heavy lifting or high on ladders.

I can bring my written recipe mixes+ samples or send them in advance for testing, I LOVE plastering walls, my favorite part.

I need an excuse to start traveling.

PS to other Crete-friendly folk --she held a workshop years ago and several attended and I was sorry to have missed it..hands on, no matter your experience is the best way to learn.
--
Charmaine

Charmaine Taylor/Publishing & Elk River Press
PO Box 375 Cutten CA 95534
www.papercrete.com

Some people forget that their beliefs don't make them a better person. 
*Their behavior does*

"Have courage for the great sorrows of life and patience for the small ones. And when you have laboriously accomplised your daily task, go to sleep in peace. God is awake." 
(Victor Hugo, 1802-1885)
 
 



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[papercreters] SUMMER VOLUNTEERS- NM



Hi Judith-  I'd be very interested to come out..my schedule is open, I am retired now, there are some serious limits on physical ability, but I have 3 good hours a day,(and 2 more after a nap)  and can help  in any way except heavy lifting or high on ladders.

I can bring my written recipe mixes+ samples or send them in advance for testing, I LOVE plastering walls, my favorite part.

I need an excuse to start traveling.

PS to other Crete-friendly folk --she held a workshop years ago and several attended and I was sorry to have missed it..hands on, no matter your experience is the best way to learn.
--
Charmaine

Charmaine Taylor/Publishing & Elk River Press
PO Box 375 Cutten CA 95534
www.papercrete.com

Some people forget that their beliefs don't make them a better person. 
*Their behavior does*

"Have courage for the great sorrows of life and patience for the small ones. And when you have laboriously accomplised your daily task, go to sleep in peace. God is awake." 
(Victor Hugo, 1802-1885)
 
 



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Wednesday, February 19, 2014

RE: [papercreters] Summer project looking for volunteers



Just getting into the papercrete thing...no experience but taking a a class in March. I'm way up in Ontario Canada but have always wanted to visit New Mexico..this may just give me a reason to get up and go..let me know when you have some dates and maybe i can plan a trip around showing up to help for a day or so. Marthe

Marthe Hook
The Fairy Garden
fairygarden.ca



From: mimmulsow@yahoo.com
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:33:52 -0800
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Summer project looking for volunteers

 

I will be in Abiquiu June 11-15.  I could go early or stay late, if that would be soon enough for you to get some help.  I will warn you that I am inexperienced.

Miriam


On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:51 PM, spaceman <Spaceman@starship-enterprises.net> wrote:
 
Nope, you're the plaster lady :)   I haven't plastered anything yet.

When you find a good recipe, please post it.

The leaks in my mixer stop dripping once I start mixing pulp. None of them are really big, though.


On 2/19/2014 11:37 AM, JUDITH WILLIAMS wrote:
It hasn't been used for years and yes it has a million leaks. I think I will not even bother with it. When we did the floor we mixed the slurry in a mortar boat and it worked really well. I used the bale of pulverized paper. To tell you the truth I'm not sure if I'm up to this but something needs to be done. Do you have a good recipe for exterior plaster?


To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
From: Spaceman@starship-enterprises.net
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:48:20 -0700
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Summer project looking for volunteers

 
What's the problem with the mixer? Leaks?


On 2/17/2014 3:05 PM, JUDITH WILLIAMS wrote:
I went up to the mesa today to check on the little places I built up there. I must say the mice have had a cozy winter, but they have been evicted. What I'm thinking is that I am going to have to finish the exteriors this summer. Is anyone interested in coming to Abiquiu for a few days to get these places exterior plastered? Let me know and I will get to work on dates and specifics. I know one thing, the tow mixer needs major work, or maybe we will just have to mix the plaster in buckets. Anyway. if anyone is interested in coming out for a few days to do some papercrete plaster let me know OK?
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I will be in Abiquiu June 11-15.  I could go early or stay late, if that would be soon enough for you to get some help.  I will warn you that I am inexperienced.

Miriam


On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:51 PM, spaceman <Spaceman@starship-enterprises.net> wrote:
 
Nope, you're the plaster lady :)   I haven't plastered anything yet.

When you find a good recipe, please post it.

The leaks in my mixer stop dripping once I start mixing pulp. None of them are really big, though.


On 2/19/2014 11:37 AM, JUDITH WILLIAMS wrote:
It hasn't been used for years and yes it has a million leaks. I think I will not even bother with it. When we did the floor we mixed the slurry in a mortar boat and it worked really well. I used the bale of pulverized paper. To tell you the truth I'm not sure if I'm up to this but something needs to be done. Do you have a good recipe for exterior plaster?


To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
From: Spaceman@starship-enterprises.net
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:48:20 -0700
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Summer project looking for volunteers

 
What's the problem with the mixer? Leaks?


On 2/17/2014 3:05 PM, JUDITH WILLIAMS wrote:
I went up to the mesa today to check on the little places I built up there. I must say the mice have had a cozy winter, but they have been evicted. What I'm thinking is that I am going to have to finish the exteriors this summer. Is anyone interested in coming to Abiquiu for a few days to get these places exterior plastered? Let me know and I will get to work on dates and specifics. I know one thing, the tow mixer needs major work, or maybe we will just have to mix the plaster in buckets. Anyway. if anyone is interested in coming out for a few days to do some papercrete plaster let me know OK?
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Re: [papercreters] Summer project looking for volunteers



Nope, you're the plaster lady :)   I haven't plastered anything yet.

When you find a good recipe, please post it.

The leaks in my mixer stop dripping once I start mixing pulp. None of them are really big, though.


On 2/19/2014 11:37 AM, JUDITH WILLIAMS wrote:
It hasn't been used for years and yes it has a million leaks. I think I will not even bother with it. When we did the floor we mixed the slurry in a mortar boat and it worked really well. I used the bale of pulverized paper. To tell you the truth I'm not sure if I'm up to this but something needs to be done. Do you have a good recipe for exterior plaster?


To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
From: Spaceman@starship-enterprises.net
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:48:20 -0700
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Summer project looking for volunteers

 
What's the problem with the mixer? Leaks?


On 2/17/2014 3:05 PM, JUDITH WILLIAMS wrote:
I went up to the mesa today to check on the little places I built up there. I must say the mice have had a cozy winter, but they have been evicted. What I'm thinking is that I am going to have to finish the exteriors this summer. Is anyone interested in coming to Abiquiu for a few days to get these places exterior plastered? Let me know and I will get to work on dates and specifics. I know one thing, the tow mixer needs major work, or maybe we will just have to mix the plaster in buckets. Anyway. if anyone is interested in coming out for a few days to do some papercrete plaster let me know OK?

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