Thursday, September 22, 2016

[papercreters] Share with all...Yahoo Confirms Huge Data Breach Affecting 500 Million Accounts



http://blabber.buzz/politics/conservative/21951-yahoo-confirms-huge-data-breach-affecting-500-million-accounts


Hope none of your friends or you have been hacked.
No word from them per emails, just found it in a news feed.

Wow



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Wednesday, September 7, 2016

[papercreters] Bas season for block making




​My experience in making blocks or long elevated trays outdoors was to always cover with glass, and or lay a black plastic tarp under with air flow, and cover with black plastic too..on the PNW coast zones we get short summers, lots of fog, rain early some years and Oregon interior where Lost Valley alt. living  community is always gets wet ​weather, so lots of left over shower doors, old window, any old slider doors are propped over the blocks out to cure.

When I visited there I was impressed at how efficient they were in whole weedy areas with curing blocks, always elevated off the ground.  When we see AZ or TX heat they can form them on the dirt because they bake all day must faster there.

waiting too long to start  in summer doesn't help, and pouring very thick slows drying.  I tried lots of cardboard trays, so the water could soak thru a bit, but keep shape, and of course drained the mixes for a while first.
Mixes left on a screen over  a drum gets to a sculptable consistency and you can shape sculptures for the garden or play with ideas for art.

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Charmaine

Charmaine Taylor/Publishing & Elk River Press
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www.papercrete.com

 "In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock."
― Thomas Jefferson 
"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
― Abraham Lincoln 
 "Ideas are far more powerful than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas?"
― Joseph Stalin


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at 10:52 AM

Tuesday, September 6, 2016

[papercreters] Re: bad season for papercrete



Heck Yeah.  I made some blocks in early August and they only started drying after I managed to move the soggy things under the carport.  Dang rain.


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at 7:39 PM

Monday, September 5, 2016

[papercreters] bad season for papercrete

Am I the only one who was looking forward to a hot, dry summer to do
papercrete? We have our framework up, our mixer is working very well.
And even days when it is not supposed to rain, we are getting surprise
thunder storms. Lots of fun when up working on the roof.

Update on our place. We are on plan C on most stuff, the logs we had
for the reciprocal roof could not take the sideways pressure, as we
lowered the Charlie stick, two broke. They gently floated down to the
ground, our helpers were devastated, we were numb. 6 months of work,
debarking the logs, getting them all ready to go up, putting them up,
then ....... So 2 weeks later we tore it all down, left the henge, and
put 4 logs as uprights in the middle of the building and used
dimensional lumber and created a roof.

Being full time farmers does make it hard to work on the house, there
are times when we don't get much done because the farm needs work. But,
the cupola roof is almost done. The papercrete is up, the petrified
hessian will go up hopefully tomorrow, unless we get rained out again.

Our mixing system allow us to reuse almost 60% of our water, over and
over again. The one aspect of papercrete we were not happy about was
the amount of water it uses, but we have that solved now. So, when the
rain stops, we will be back out there, trying to get todays mix installed.

It is an adventure, I will say that.



--

Kim Travis

Certified Permaculture Designer

Bedias, Texas



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Thursday, August 11, 2016

Re: [papercreters] Help. Can't find the address for alternative refrigeration group!



Thanks sent a message.

Calle

From: Alan rustaholic777@yahoo.com [papercreters]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 11:08 AM
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Reply To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Help. Can't find the address for alternative refrigeration group!

 

Send email to this link




Alan


From: "valledecalle@yahoo.com [papercreters]" <papercreters@yahoogroups.com>
To: "Kim gartht@windstream.net [papercreters]" <papercreters@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Help. Can't find the address for alternative refrigeration group!



Thanks

We appear to be still trying to recover from the fire. Trees are falling like toothpicks.

Any address for the alternative refrigeration group?

From: Kim gartht@windstream.net [papercreters]
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 2:13 PM
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Reply To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Help. Can't find the address for alternative refrigeration group!

 
I am about to.  We are just fine tuning our mixer and getting ready to start pouring.

On 08/01/2016 01:31 PM, valledecalle@yahoo.com [papercreters] wrote:
 

Wanted to ask about the Einstein/Sz... units and if anyone had built or used one.

Hope all are well. Never get any posts anymore.
--
Kim Travis
Certified Permaculture Designer
Bedias, Texas








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Re: [papercreters] Help. Can't find the address for alternative refrigeration group!



Send email to this link




Alan


From: "valledecalle@yahoo.com [papercreters]" <papercreters@yahoogroups.com>
To: "Kim gartht@windstream.net [papercreters]" <papercreters@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Help. Can't find the address for alternative refrigeration group!



Thanks

We appear to be still trying to recover from the fire. Trees are falling like toothpicks.

Any address for the alternative refrigeration group?

From: Kim gartht@windstream.net [papercreters]
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 2:13 PM
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Reply To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Help. Can't find the address for alternative refrigeration group!

 
I am about to.  We are just fine tuning our mixer and getting ready to start pouring.

On 08/01/2016 01:31 PM, valledecalle@yahoo.com [papercreters] wrote:
 

Wanted to ask about the Einstein/Sz... units and if anyone had built or used one.

Hope all are well. Never get any posts anymore.
--
Kim Travis
Certified Permaculture Designer
Bedias, Texas







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at 11:08 AM

Monday, August 1, 2016

Re: [papercreters] Help. Can't find the address for alternative refrigeration group!



Thanks

We appear to be still trying to recover from the fire. Trees are falling like toothpicks.

Any address for the alternative refrigeration group?

From: Kim gartht@windstream.net [papercreters]
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 2:13 PM
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Reply To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Help. Can't find the address for alternative refrigeration group!

 

I am about to.  We are just fine tuning our mixer and getting ready to start pouring.


On 08/01/2016 01:31 PM, valledecalle@yahoo.com [papercreters] wrote:
 


Wanted to ask about the Einstein/Sz... units and if anyone had built or used one.

Hope all are well. Never get any posts anymore.
--

Kim Travis

Certified Permaculture Designer

Bedias, Texas




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Posted by: valledecalle@yahoo.com



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at 2:55 PM

Re: [papercreters] Help. Can't find the address for alternative refrigeration group!



I am about to.  We are just fine tuning our mixer and getting ready to start pouring.


On 08/01/2016 01:31 PM, valledecalle@yahoo.com [papercreters] wrote:
 


Wanted to ask about the Einstein/Sz... units and if anyone had built or used one.

Hope all are well. Never get any posts anymore.
--

Kim Travis

Certified Permaculture Designer

Bedias, Texas



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Posted by: Kim <gartht@windstream.net>



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at 2:13 PM

[papercreters] Help. Can't find the address for alternative refrigeration group!




Wanted to ask about the Einstein/Sz... units and if anyone had built or used one.

Hope all are well. Never get any posts anymore.


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Posted by: valledecalle@yahoo.com



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at 1:31 PM

Wednesday, June 8, 2016

Re: [papercreters] Re: Papercrete and Extreme Couponing, the perfect partnership?



Bravo Charlene!  Actually for a while when we first move to Texas, I was getting coupons for cage free organic eggs, organic milk and a few things like that.  Not in the last 15 years though, unless they are given by the store.  HEB and Kroger both coupon healthier foods. 


On 6/8/2016 12:26 PM, 'C. C. Visnesky' charmainertaylor@gmail.com [papercreters] wrote:
 
>>>"But again, a good coupon is just like money if it's for something you were planning on buying anyway
Standing WAY back and looking at the big picture YES "if you WERE going to buy overprocessed, chemically altered, high fructose junk foods that last for years uneaten ,,,then we all go ahead and SAVE money,  BUT ruin our bodies over time as most Americans do not eat wisely now.   .
and "papercrete" recycle types are likely to avoid the products the masses consume, in favor or  home grown, fresh real foods, right?. 
So in the end we did not get to 600% rise in diabetes/kidney dialysis and 70% overweight from good nutrition..Coupons CONTINUE this national madness..only feed the BIGFOODCORP which is NEVER held responsible, their profit JOB is  to keep foods as cheap and tasty as possible..not provide for OUR health.
I WONDER HOW the processed foods stored on ALLthose tiny "home grocery stores", thousands of bottles of sauces boxed noodle mixes, cake mix, ALL edible stuff.  (canned foods last 20+ years, except for canned pineapple that eat thru the metal in <10 years- true,ask me how i know!)  deodorant, toothpaste, TP, yes, those may last, but all manufactured products break down, and I don't see how a family of 4-5 can consume all those boxes  of food on shelves, especially cereals. NOT knocking how you eat, but just going by your friendly coupon clipper lady and getting her leftovers for your papercrete may be the healthiest thing to do.

Charmaine 













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 "Ideas are far more powerful than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas?"
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--   PK

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[papercreters] Re: Papercrete and Extreme Couponing, the perfect partnership?



>>>"But again, a good coupon is just like money if it's for something you were planning on buying anyway
Standing WAY back and looking at the big picture YES "if you WERE going to buy overprocessed, chemically altered, high fructose junk foods that last for years uneaten ,,,then we all go ahead and SAVE money,  BUT ruin our bodies over time as most Americans do not eat wisely now.   .
and "papercrete" recycle types are likely to avoid the products the masses consume, in favor or  home grown, fresh real foods, right?. 
So in the end we did not get to 600% rise in diabetes/kidney dialysis and 70% overweight from good nutrition..Coupons CONTINUE this national madness..only feed the BIGFOODCORP which is NEVER held responsible, their profit JOB is  to keep foods as cheap and tasty as possible..not provide for OUR health.
I WONDER HOW the processed foods stored on ALLthose tiny "home grocery stores", thousands of bottles of sauces boxed noodle mixes, cake mix, ALL edible stuff.  (canned foods last 20+ years, except for canned pineapple that eat thru the metal in <10 years- true,ask me how i know!)  deodorant, toothpaste, TP, yes, those may last, but all manufactured products break down, and I don't see how a family of 4-5 can consume all those boxes  of food on shelves, especially cereals. NOT knocking how you eat, but just going by your friendly coupon clipper lady and getting her leftovers for your papercrete may be the healthiest thing to do.

Charmaine 













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 "Ideas are far more powerful than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas?"
― Joseph Stalin


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at 12:26 PM

Tuesday, June 7, 2016

[papercreters] Re: Papercrete and Extreme Couponing, the perfect partnership?



Note that unless your paper/coupons are "fresh", many of the coupons might be be out of date by the time you can recover them from the waste stream and sort through them.


Note further that in rural areas, where papercrete can more easily be used for construction, there might not be an adequate number of stores to use the coupons.

Unfortunately the "extreme" coupon shows on TV gave couponing a bad rap and many stores really clamped down.  But the online competition is still fierce so price matching, with or without coupons, is another way to save. 

But again, a good coupon is just like money if it's for something you were planning on buying anyway.  


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at 1:20 PM

Friday, January 15, 2016

[papercreters] Reciprocal roof going up.



Sorry for the late notice, but looks like the weather will be cooperating for the roof logs to go up on the house starting on Sunday. We still need to cut the rummies, figure out the charlie stick and put the scaffold up, but, most people want to learn that part. The logs will be ready to go on Sunday, January 17th, so we will be working on it. RSVP appreciated so I can make sure I have enough food. We don't start until 10AM, to let it warm up, no working with cold muscles. Garth and I will be working until this job is done, or it rains. But it looks like it could be Thursday before we get rained out, so the roof could be finished and a possible start on the patio. Strong muscles very welcome. https://reciprocalroof.wordpress.com/ will tell the story until now, we are about to write a new chapter. Email or pm to get directions etc. 

--   PK
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