Wednesday, March 12, 2008

[papercreters] Re: using panels as wall

thank you trkker very much for your explanation.
i got some trouble finding out your meaning.

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, trekker4@... wrote:
>
> If I was building a house, or other habitable structure, I'd use
>minimal
> post and beam to hold the roof up, with an engineered lumber bond
>beam on top of
> the posts; secondly I'd put the roof on; then I'd slip form walls
>with
> poured papercrete, which skips the whole block making process of
>several thousand
> blocks, depending on block and house size. This can be done on most
>parts of
> a wall with cheap, 2' x 8' quarter-inch paneling. Wall thickness

you mean using a form of size 2'x8' and 1/4 inch isn't that very thin
for a wall?
for building a panel for a wall of about 20-30 cm width and the size
of 2mx3m. how can I feel the form? how should the form be constructed?
does it need holes for breathing?
is there any pictures which I can look through and know more about
this process?
thanks and with regards

>spacers are
> necessary for the top of the forms; the bottoms just deck screw
>into the
> previous pour, which should be dried a day or two. One can pour 18"
at a time
> this way; just cut 2' x 4' whatever lengthwise for forms; sanding,
and spray or
> brush oiling the forms reduces papercrete sticking. Depending on one's
> interior floor, inside walls can also be slipformed.
> I'd use custom forms (perhaps 1/2" plywood) for the bottom
pour, with a
> horizontal 2" x 2" board at a height of 12" above the inside floor,
for a
> wiring channel around all sides of a room; one could also use a 2"
x 2"
> vertical board where one needed light switches; this saves a
tremendous amount of
> time cutting wiring channels. Plumbing channels can also be
preformed. I've
> even built a 9' jig for wall building.
>
> Bob "Trekker"
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> Naturalized Citizen - Republic of Texas
>
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> -- Harry Browne
>
> "If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what
it costs
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>
>
>
> In a message dated 3/10/2008 7:17:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> eepjr24@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> --- In _papercreters@papercreterspap_
(mailto:papercreters@yahoogroups.com) ,
> "Mahyar" <mahyar_ace@mah> wrote:
> >
> > can one use panels(big ones) as prebuilt walls instead of breaks?
> > what would be the thickness of the preferred panel?
>
> Certainly you can cast PC in panels for use in non-structural
> (divider) walls. With no tests available to me, I can't be certain,
> but I would bet they make very good soundproofing. I would say
> thickness would vary by application. I would probably go with 1.5-2"
> thick panels to start with, and sandwich two of them together with
> space between for conduit and to make outlet placement viable.
>
> Obviously, my post is merely speculation. It would be great if one of
> the folks with practical experience in PC walls would chime in.
>
> - Ernie
>
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