Tuesday, November 10, 2009

Re: [papercreters] Re: do not put cement into any washer



I am not the person that mentioned doing this, but I did build an apple press a number of years ago that we used to deal with the apples off the 9 trees in our yard.  You are supposed to wait till the first frost to get the best tasting apples, which we did.  I incorporated a garbage disposal into the thing to pulp apples.  Wow did that work great.  Someone sat there and chucked apples (without cutting or any prep whatsoever) into the disposal and filled a cheesecloth sack clothes-pinned to the top of a 5 gallon bucket.  While someone else squeezed the previous sack full.
The first couple of years we did fine with this operation, but one year we were in a hurry to get the apples up and started the process earlier.  It was warmer outside and on the second batch the disposal overheated and shut down.  Because it is thermally protected, we waited awhile and started again.  Eventually it burned the motor up and precipitated a unit change.
If someone does try this you may need to use very cold ingredients (ice water) to make it work for very long.
Ron



 

On the subject of unused appliances, one person did mention using a garbage disposal hooked to an outdoor sink to pulp paper.



--- In papercreters@ yahoogroups. com, JUDITH WILLIAMS <williams_judith@ ...> wrote:
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> Thanks Charmaine that's the answer I was looking for. I didn;t really think things out before I wrote that question. I was just thinking about all the derelict washing machines out there and wondering of they could be put to good use. And you know we're always looking for new ways to make the papercrete process better.
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> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:40:59 -0800
> Subject: [papercreters] do not put cement into any washer
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> Have you used a washing machine to make papercrete?
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> Could you put hammer milled or shredded paper in the machine, add
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> It would be nice to find a use for them and all switch to the low
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> water usage front load models. Just a quick thought as I read
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> Charmaine's message about using a blender.
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> NEVER PUT CEMENT INTO A WRINGER WASHER. I use no cement in my mixes
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> DURING the mix.. wringer washers- there is NO serious torque power,
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> I DID hear of a woman who used A real modern washer, and it was a
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> total mess. just the paper alone messed it up, with no cement. since
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> you have a short time to work with cement, making the paper mix , THEN
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> adding cement when it is safely out of the washer is OK. I have done
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> the advantage of clay and paper in a washer is that it can sit for
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> up, add any fibers, and then scoop put to use. NO hoses are used.
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> Just a low tech method, and since I use SAWDUST, I can add water,
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> clay lime, and just mix when needed, let sit if needed. and pulling
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> some wet mix from the washer to drain on a window screen placed over
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> the drum is easy to make a more sculpt able mix.. just keep checking
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> it for drainage, and perfect consistency to shape into objects.
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