--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, "Ernie Phelps" <eepjr24@...> wrote:
>
> Not directly on topic, but certainly of interest both as a trend as as
> a possible source for materials to be used in PC and PC buildings.
>
>
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/28/magazine/28house-t.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin
>
> - Ernie
>
I spent 15 years recycling old mills and houses. If you reuse the
materials and then sell the houses built from building material
salvaged it makes a lot more sense.
By the time you deal with the problems of deconstruction , unless
there is a lot of easily salvaged antique lumber its not worth it.
If you get paid to do it and know how to recycle you can send most of
it to places other than the dump .
That is what interested me in papercrete. You could tear down a house
and throw the Sheetrock in the mix or make plaster out of it as well
as the lath and plaster. Probably use the roofing in the foundation
and vapor barriers on the slab and top plate on straw bale
construction or send it to asphalt companies to be mixed into new
asphalt. The ceiling tiles in commercial buildings would be great for
papercrete. .
I don't see any reason you couldn't throw old carpet and padding in
the mix .The wood waste could be ground up and used for papercrete
fill or mulch.Of course dimensional lumber worth saving could be used
for new structures or sold. If you know how you can take whole wall
sections and reassemble most or all of the frame for a garage or a
whole house very quickly.
Brick and tile nor worth cleaning could be crushed and used for earth
bags in foundations etc.
Except for lead paint and asbestos you could just about eliminate
waste as the only other waste is old appliances which can yield some
precious metals and the other metal such as nails and copper wire
which can easily be turned to cash. Actually if you mixed the
materials on site with lead paint and made blocks that would be
covered with plaster it would be safe to use it but no city will let you.
With a papercrete mixer and hammer mill on site you could make the
blocks right there and then send them to their final destination
instead of hauling it twice
If any one here has some money to invest and needs someone to run a
deconstruction co. I would be the man for the job. I have recycled
more material that most, I sold 180,000 feet of used wood flooring to
one building and millions of board feet of lumber and millions of
bricks all over the world .Unfortunately I can't do the work
personally anymore because of a car wreck but I know how to
deconstruct a house, or a mill for that matter and save everything
better than most. With pneumatic denailer the job of denailing is much
faster, at least double, with flooring and siding 3 to 4 times.
I would love to get back into the business, I miss playing in the
trash for fun and profit. I think it is becoming feasible to really do
this as the price of landfills goes up and more and more codes are
demanding the use of recycled materials.
Of course the key to it is building a market for papercrete. At one
time there was no market , at least not a viable one for the millions
of feet of old maple flooring trashed from old buildings. I had a lot
to do with changing that , it would be a challenge to change this
situation but it can be done, someone has to go out and just do it.
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