Thursday, May 14, 2009

Re: [papercreters] CALICHE VS BENTONITE



Yes, very different but in some ways they act alike. Ground up caliche makes a nice slippery mud, and they use it for sand roads to firm them up. Unfortunately I live in a deep sand area and would have to find clay on someone else's place and get permission to harvest it. I have lots of caliché from the hole we made for the underground dome, which is on hold for a while.

Diesel is about half that around here, so about half the price of the AE in a 5 gallon bucket. I imagine alcohol would work also, as would just about any type of petroleum product, to dissolve the shingles.

The solar cooker idea is excellent, but diesel in a bucket would be a lot faster and easier since I don't have any sliding doors sitting around and they are hard to come by here on the border, just like all the really good trash.

Spaceman

Charmaine Taylor wrote:

  Spaceman-- they are two different  'minerals'  but caliche is so great that I'd try it if you can use it.  mixing it WITH any local clay will give you a strong binding  material.  Mary Miller-- a long time ago PC experimenter sent me a sample of papercrete with caliche, vs cement, and the dang thing is very strong.  since it is a LIME based material, it will bind well to the  AE or other mixes you try.  go for it and let us know.   melting shingles in diesel fuel at $4. a gallon?  AE is so cheap ( $20. 5 gal bucket)    that it might be worth trying both.  BUT also since the tar shingles are just tar- paper base and gravel why not SOLAR COOK them.. make a crude slider door solar cooker over a  pile of shingles?  ( with old PC panels around it.   and melt it down faster with no fuels needed?  even on a small scale you can test it in a big black pot or old drum or similar.     

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