Monday, May 18, 2009

[papercreters] Re: PC inside a bus turned RV?

Hi,

I've been busy for a while. Glad to see things papercrete heating up!

Papercrete might be a choice for the bus, especially if small sections
were done at a time, with some kind of flex joints between them.

> ... As much as we are prone to not consider a manmade material such as foam in order to be "green", it really
> seems to be the time-tested medium for what you're doing.

I agree with Perry's suggestion of foam. That can also be greener if
SoyFoam.com or other BioBased.net insulation is used. (Hi Perry - sorry
we didn't get LinkedIn)

I am not experienced with their use, but some friends down by the border
are registered SoyFoam installer. They have made a 350 gallon tractor
PTO-driven papercrete mixer, because they are looking for a more
affordable solution, as other bio-based insulation is proprietary and
therefore more expensive.

L8r,

Vince

> Re: PC inside a bus turned RV?
> Posted by: "Perry Way" perryway@gmail.com neolympus
> Date: Sun May 17, 2009 11:47 am ((PDT))
>
> ... The sort of accepted
> norm when it comes to insulation is that spray foam. It sticks to
> everything, can be shaped by a rasp file and/or disc sander, adds extra
> strength, but still flexes along with the body of the bus. From what I'm
> reading about papercrete, the two are not equal. The foam has excellent
> insulation properties, but papercrete needs more thickness to accomplish the
> same amount of insulation. You might find it would be more heavy than the
> foam insulation. And you might find it cracking and crumbling to dust where
> the flexing occurs, thus adding a level of complexity over time to keeping
> your bus free of dust and irritants. As much as we are prone to not
> consider a manmade material such as foam in order to be "green", it really
> seems to be the time-tested medium for what you're doing. If I were
> converting a bus again, I would use spray foam in a heartbeat. Just my two
> cents.
>
> Perry


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