Saturday, October 10, 2009

Re: [papercreters] Great Looking Photos



Bob, I meant to say thank you for the power point presentation you did for us, that was quite nice.
I wanted to know if there is a way to make comments about what we were doing at the bottom of the pictures ?
 
Thanks Doris

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 1:38 PM, doris burton <dorisburton03@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Ron
When you see old ruins it's always the roof that goes first, this roof is overkill on purpose. The columns go four feet into the ground, and there is a 6" X 6" mesh  wire tied into a tube , then three pieces of re bar was inserted in the middle of the column. We used concrete with the poly fiber added to the mix. We really thought the poly fiber was some nice material, it totally changes the concrete. We only added a couple of pinches to each batch.
We have six columns they are spaced roughly 20 feet a part, then Ron made box beams to connect them to the columns.
As for the electrical we just ran the wire before our forms went up then incased them in the middle of the 11 " wall (so no screws or nails would come in contact with the wireing later on.) The elecricial box is screwed onto the form with scrap pieces of wood behind the form to hold the box into place as the PC is packed into the form.
We have over 600 pictures that we have taken since the project started back in Dec 08, we made sure to have a record in pictures of our every move. :)  ....So let us know what you would like to see more of.
 
Doris
 
 
 
 
 
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Ron Richter <ronerichter@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Hi All,
As I look at Doris and Ron's pictures, I see why they put the posts in first so the roof could go on and cover the work in progress on the wall.  I think this is brilliant and got to wondering if this 12" post was overkill.  If there is rebar and wire in the column, could it be smaller, say 6" diameter with rebar, still hold up the roof or top plate/beam and be completely inside the wall?  I do like the rounded corners but if these columns were spaced 8' to 10' apart and hidden inside the wall it would seem to satisfy even the peskiest building inspectors.  They need not be all concrete but rather a 1.5 concrete to 1 paper/cardboard mix would suffice.

Doris, you are going to have to tell us what you did behind the electrical boxes we see in one of the photos.  Did you run conduit behind them in the PC?  How many pieces of rebar did you put in each column?  Are your columns PC or cement?

You guys are awesome keep us updated.

Ron 





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