Papercreters: Re: [papercreters] Re: Share your clay recipes

Sunday, May 22, 2011

Re: [papercreters] Re: Share your clay recipes

Greetings,
A cheaper solution is wallpaper paste. I used to use it to repair
vehicles up North. Makes a very tough paper mache, as long as it is
painted.

Bright Blessings,
Garth & Kim Travis
www.TheRoseColoredForest.com
Bedias, Texas
936-395-0110

On 5/22/2011 5:54 AM, andrew hawthorne wrote:
> dear Pam I'm new on here but i use the same paper slurry mixed with
> white school glue or carpenters glue to mold onto paper mache shell. It
> dries really hard and very light weight and you can seal it with
> varnish. I do this in small batches using shredded newspaper with one
> part glue to one part water until I have a Constancy I like. To make the
> paper mache shell I use one part water. one part glue and one part
> powder laundry starch. Hope this isn't to far off the sbject and hope it
> helps you lighten your bird houses
>
> --- On *Sun, 5/22/11, Pam Cole /<honeyland12@yahoo.com>/* wrote:
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> From: Pam Cole <honeyland12@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [papercreters] Re: Share your clay recipes
> To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, May 22, 2011, 12:34 AM
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> I need something to make my Birdhouses light, hard, and safe from
> the weather. I guess I'll have to keep using the cement!
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> *From:* Donald Miller <donald1miller@yahoo.com>
> *To:* papercreters@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Fri, May 20, 2011 7:31:38 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [papercreters] Re: Share your clay recipes
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> There is a difference between experiments and actually making and
> using papercrete/paper adobe. I have stopped using cement long ago
> and only use clay for a binder in my blocks. I use cardboard for the
> pulp and it works very well indeed with clay. I don't even use much
> clay as I have found that very little is needed, perhaps one small
> shovelful per block. I too am not much on details but rather focus
> on results. I also make blocks with only cardboard pulp and they
> work very well and are of course lighter than the blocks made with
> clay. The idea that clay does not adhere to anything is rather
> ludicrous as it sticks to everything and is a pain to remove when it
> dries. It also expands when subjected to water, which is why
> basement and foundation walls in heavy clay soils benefit from a
> layer of gravel next to the concrete.
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> --- On *Fri, 5/20/11, ashokchand2000 /<ashokchand2000@yahoo.com>/*
> wrote:
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> From: ashokchand2000 <ashokchand2000@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [papercreters] Re: Share your clay recipes
> To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, May 20, 2011, 12:12 AM
>
> Dear Pam,
> Consider the following thought experiment.
> In a papercrete mixer put the newsprint and water but do not put
> in the cement and run it.
>
> What will result?
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> In my understanding, the mixer, working as a pulper alone, will
> shred the newsprint into wood fibre and mix air in the mix
> making it quite light and foamy.
>
> If you add cement to the mix, papercrete results.
> So what is different in the two experiments?
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> Cement actually coats the shredded newsprint (wood fibre) with
> itself protecting the wood fibre from the environment so that it
> no longer decays. Also, to some extent,the cement expands and
> fills the voids created by the mixing. The long setting time of
> papercrete allows the voids to gather some strength.
>
> Clay has no natural affinity to anything. That includes wood
> fibre. It will not coat individual wood fibres but will mix
> between the wood fibres.
> It does not expand on coming in contact with water.
>
> This suggests that the resulting mix will have very poor
> strength and will decay with time.
> Regards
> Ashok
>
> --- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com
> <http://us.mc1106.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=papercreters%40yahoogroups.com>,
> JUDITH WILLIAMS <williams_judith@...> wrote:
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> > How about starting out by substituting clay for cement in the
> same amount then adjusting from there. Please share if you do
> this. I have been doing it and am having good results, but seem
> to think more clay than cement is required. I am serious about
> your sharing your results. Attention to detail is not my forte.
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> > "There are none happy in the world but being who enjoy freely
> a vast horizon." Damodora
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> > Follow progress on the new project at
> http://www.papercretebyjudith.com/blog
> >
> > More papercrete info at http://squidoo.com/papercretebyjudith
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> > To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
> <http://us.mc1106.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=papercreters%40yahoogroups.com>
> > From: heerkitty@...
> > Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 20:28:29 +0000
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> > I live in Alabama so red clay is abundant, I would think that
> the clay would have to be dried and sifted to use in papercrete?
> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: "PamC"
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> > Hello everyone Pam here from east TN, I'm looking for a clay
> recipe so I can quit using cement in my papercrete, plz help
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> > Thanks
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> > Pam
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