RE: [papercreters] Re: Floor Question for Ron and Doris

There have been a few (2 that I know of) permitted papercrete homes in NM. And Mason Greenstar in Mason TX is mass producing patented papercrete blocks and building large upscale homes in their area, which has no codes. I have been told that it wouldn't be too hard to get a permit in NM using papercrete as infill. I have several objections to permits, some of them financial others philosophical.

As far as your home withstanding tornado winds, I wouldn't be surprised if it outdid just about any stick built home. As you know I am building on the windiest mesa west of the Pecos so I have designed my house so that wind will flow over and around it. I would say the weakest area of a papercrete house would be where the roof is connected. Lots of those hurricane tie downs would be needed.

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To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
From: yakishome@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 22:58:28 +0000
Subject: [papercreters] Re: Floor Question for Ron and Doris

 

Building codes add expense and complexity to any type of building especially innovative materials that have not been tested over time. Codes probably save lives by making it difficult to cut too many corners. Our building is not that cheap. There is a lot of cement in that paper (probably too much). I think it would hold up to a tornado better than a lot of stick homes we have seen on the news lately(all built to code). Anything new has to be "not normal" and difficult and subversive to a degree. As for the future, I think a big company will adapt papercrete to a new type of insulated concrete forms. Fully engineered, mass produced and greener than the foam they currently use. But you make a good point Donald, but I would at least scale up to dog houses. Ronthebuilder
--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, Donald Miller <donald1miller@...> wrote:
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> For all of us ooh-ing and ahh-ing over Ron and Doris' addition, and it is quite impressive, remember that for the vast majority of us living in areas with building code enforcement, this building would never be allowed without the very expensive OK from an architect or engineering firm. And it probably wouldn't be allowed in it's present form even with that. Not without a lot of very expensive and unnecessary changes. Which defeats the purpose of Papercrete as an economical building medium in which a low cost and safe home can be built by people of modest means and abilities. This is why the papercrete movement with all it's promise will never be realized and the medium will be reduced to being used for birdhouses.
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> --- On Mon, 5/30/11, countryatheartok <criswells.ok@...> wrote:
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> From: countryatheartok <criswells.ok@...>
> Subject: [papercreters] Re: Floor Question for Ron and Doris
> To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, May 30, 2011, 7:46 AM
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> I was just about to correct my question when I read your answer, I went
> back through the photo section and saw where Ron had laid down a 2x4
> frame and covered it with OSB. That is still pretty amazing. Velva and I
> are amazed as how well your project has turned out. We wish we were both
> retired so we would have more time to devote to our little project.
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> Bob & Velva
> Question: Is Ron laying Laminate flooring directly over the PC
> subfloor?
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> No there were the 4X8 forms of PC he laid first then put plastic over
> that then over that he built a frame like structure out of 2x4's then
> the sub-floor on top of that then the laminate flooring. I think there
> are some pictures in the older photo album where you can see the process
> if not let me know and I will post them.
> Hope this helps.
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> Doris and Ron
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