Papercreters: [papercreters] Re: The uninformed

Sunday, November 16, 2008

[papercreters] Re: The uninformed

Well i think we will just have to try some compression tests at
difernt pressures let them cure and have a press with a psi gage and
see what happens.If we see a positive result then we take that in for
testing.With 6 months of winter coming we will have somthing to do
lol,we have a bending press in the shop with a pressure gage so once
we make some more samples i will try pressed and non pressed and see
the diff.I think there is referance to pressed brick in one of Mason
Greenstars videos,im not sure but they were 3000 psi im not sure if
he said pressed or non pressed will have to watch it again.Clair

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, <pepperh@...> wrote:
>
> I agree - from the DIY side. THe CEB block engineer that I worked
with did a series of structure tests. It cost him $1000. The
problem he ran into was CEB is not a certified material and every
time he went to build blocks he had the same test expense. Concrete
must be tested but that seems to be easy and they have a lot of
data. Can papercrete be tested as concrete. Can the mix be
consistent?
>
> A missionary built 50 CEB forms in a grid. Covered with Lid with
inserts to ram the material. Then he parked a truck on it. It
worked with "damp" CEB. How much preasure do we need? WIth CEB we
are binding through extreme preasure. Papercrete?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: smt460
> To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 9:01 AM
> Subject: [papercreters] Re: The uninformed
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> --- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, <pepperh@> wrote:
> >
> > How much preasure does it take to make a papercrete block?
Pounds
> per square inch? How far can you compress papercrete - 2 to 1? If
> you squeeze out all the liquid does this ruin the block. How long
do
> you hold in compression?
> >
> > If I assume papercrete needs 25#s per square inch and the
material
> can be compressed at 2 to 1 ratio and held in compression for 1
> minute - this is not a major piece of equipment. Has anyone
> experimented with what Papercrete needs? CEB presses are over
kill
> for papercrete? I have a 30 ton press for CEB. - 2 to 1 material
> ratio - is this overkill for papercrete?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: smt460
> > To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 6:48 AM
> > Subject: [papercreters] The uninformed
> >
> >
> > Last friday i was working at our church and showed our test
brick
> to
> > my head pastor,he was totaly amazed.He had never heard of doing
> this
> > with used paper and thought it was a great thing .He now wants
a
> > meeting with me next week.We have bought a large peice of rec
> > property last year and have set up a portable camp till we find
a
> low
> > cost remidy to build cabins with.Because there is so much bush
> around
> > papercrete makes sence,he wants some more test bricks to send
to
> his
> > arciteces for testing,fire is a big insurance worry when there
is
> a
> > youth camp involved.Every one i show this brick to is blowen
away
> and
> > thinks its a great thing ,we have a congrigation of 1400+ x 1
ton
> of
> > waste paper per person a year,thats alot of recyled news print
> and
> > cardboard.I have been given permission to put a paper box on
the
> > church grounds for collection.Now while we are making bricks we
> can
> > also train people for mission trips aswell,we are over 200
youth
> in
> > the church so they are very willing to learn new things that
will
> > help others.Next week we have World Visions african village
> display
> > at our church and will show them this aswell for alt building
> > media.As far as getting the word out social networking is the
way
> the
> > net is the best for free advertising.We have been building our
> press
> > this week and now have it mounted on a trailer, total
investment
> so
> > far $34 for rods,zip cut disks.The steel was old salvage,free.I
> will
> > post some pics today after church we are still gathering
hydrolic
> > parts but will take step by step pics if anyone wants to build
> there
> > own from our brainstorming.Have a great sunday,Clair.
> >
> >
> >
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> Well that is something we will have to experiment with but common
> sence tell us that we just want to remove some of the water to
keep
> the r factor.We have a 50 ton loader from our pit if we can park
it
> on 4 bricks and they hold i think they will be ok lol.In the meen
> time we will have to just have to try differnt pressures till we
get
> it right.Thats the fun part of doing a project like this gets the
> brain going .Clair
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