Monday, December 3, 2012

Re: [papercreters] Re: Papercrete in the cold North?



Thanks, Ron.
Like I wrote in my other post to Tasha I won't do quite that mix but it is great to hear how that worked for you? I want to do wall panels on the ground then stand them up so thickness will depend on how big of a panel I can get from a 250 gallon tow mixer.
My sweet wife thinks I have too much paper and cardboard out back but with a mixer that big I probably only have enough for three loads now.
With all of the huge pallets I have here I am considering just making a pallet frame then attaching papercrete panels to the frame.
I am looking forward to next Summer when I can just pour one panel and see how it turns out.
 
Alan in Michigan

--- On Mon, 12/3/12, Ron <ronerichter@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ron <ronerichter@yahoo.com>
Subject: [papercreters] Re: Papercrete in the cold North?
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, December 3, 2012, 1:14 AM

Hi Alan,
You probably have a bit more moist environment than that in Montana, but I did just that.  In 2008 I started a shed 8'X16' to house a three wheeler and trailer.  I was only able to work on it summers and so it sat through the winter.  I did cover it for some of the time but nothing fancy, a blue tarp that never made it through the winter.

My mix was not what you mentioned, rather it was 1:2 portland to paper.  I was adding sand at the beginning but soon was using just paper and portland.  I never got it done because of other pressing matters.  In December 2011 I had to remove it from where it was because I had put it right in the path where an 18 wheeler needed to go around one of my buildings.  So it sat in the elements for 4 years and was perfectly fine when I tore it apart.  I saved all that I had done because I am planning a "real" building which will have 12" thick walls.  I'll be able to bury all the pieces I salvaged from my initial attempt in the walls of the new structure because the shed only had 8" walls.

Personally, I don't think you'll be wasting your time.
Ron

 

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, Alan <rustaholic777@...> wrote:
>
> Next question
>  
> Is there anyone here that has done a straight equal amount of paper and Portland in water and built anything to set outside here in the cold sometimes very wet North?
>  
> I would love to know that if I build the tow mixer and put up a papercrete shed it will last a good while.  It would be a real waste to make the tow mixer just to do some samples that fail.
> If none of you can assure me it will work I do suppose I could do a five gallon bucket test and make a block to set outside for a year or so.
> I have one of those drill powered "paint" stirrers to mix up Quick Crete in five gallon buckets if only I can find it now.
>  
> Alan in Northern Lower Michigan
>
>  
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