Wednesday, December 1, 2010

Re: [papercreters] Re: Petrefied Hessian



Well, there are some on the list who have done and are doing. There are a lot more who would like to but don't know how so they are trying to learn. Basically there are folks here who have some knowledge and are trying to help, and there are folks who are trying to get some of that knowledge. Putting someone down because of their lack of knowledge and experience is not helpful. If you don't have an answer then don't give one, but don't attack the person asking. After all, were you born with all your knowledge or did you have to learn it like the rest of us? At least the ones who have joined a list like this are trying to learn and are aware of a problem even though the solution might not be apparent to them. You should give them credit for trying to learn.

You'll find that in the USA most folks are math challenged and don't even know for sure if they are getting the right change at the grocery store. The store clerks could not give change without the cash register that tells them how much to give back. When the power goes off they can not sell anything! Education is a joke in public schools, you get very little practical knowledge there. I'm constantly amazed at the number of people who haven't even yet figured out how to turn on their spell checker.

Back to the original question - I haven't ever bought burlap so have no idea of the cost per sq.ft.   Portland cement runs about ten cents a pound, lime is slightly more. I don't offhand remember the rest of the ingredients. I did notice some apparent math errors in the recipe. I really doubt that a gallon or so of mix will cover 8m square, which is 64 square meters. More likely it was meant to say 8 square meters, which still seems like a lot to cover with that small amount of mix. It must be really thin like paint, and therefore not very strong.

Petrified Hessian would probably not be the most practical thing to use to seal papercrete, there are easier and cheaper ways. It's certainly not strong enough to use for an underground building. Dirt is really heavy and a thin layer of crusty burlap is not going to support much. IMHO this would be suitable for a quick temporary shelter but not practical for a larger building or for anything permanent. That  round house that was linked recently was nice but way expensive for just a thin shell. Not to mention the waste that was implied.

That's why I'm building with papercrete. It is relatively cheap, strong, good insulation, and easy to work with. It can be done with a minimum of equipment and a lot of work, or better equipment and less work.

spaceman

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On 12/1/2010 12:47 PM, Wayne wrote:
> I posted the recipe. I have not made the product yet. I live in
> Australia, you probably live somewhere else. For crying out loud
> people, if you can't work these basic things out for yourself then
> how can you be capable of constructing a dwelling fit to live
> in????????
>
> What happened everyone's ability to do things for themselves. I
> thought this was a forum full of practical and capable people. After
> all the replies I have had on this one I am doubting my original
> thoughts on that.
>
> Wayne
>



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