Re: [papercreters] Clarissa any pictures

The truth is that I was very diligent about taking pictures when we started working. I have a great log/history of how everything went together. Then, the weather got colder and we got much more motivated to get things done. We still have 2 more to put up and it is snowing here. As soon as I get a chance, I'll take pictures of the rest of the work and post them. Clarissa --- On Thu, 12/2/10, valledecalle@yahoo.com <valledecalle@yahoo.com> wrote: From: valledecalle@yahoo.com <valledecalle@yahoo.com> Subject: [papercreters] Clarissa any pictures To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, December 2, 2010, 2:53 PM   Would love to see pictures Calle -----Original message----- From: cloud wall <windwalkerwill@yahoo.com> To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Dec 2, 2010 16:30:44 GMT+00:00 Subject: RE: [papercreters] Roofing   I read everything on this list but seldom post because you are all way out of my league. In this case, though, I've done a lot of research and experimenting. The billboards are really promising. They are equal to the strength of the 'cover ~ it' clearspan buildings. I don't know how they would do for a house that people would live in. Supposedly, they can be insulated. The nice people at Farmtek sent us a sample when we began investigating barns. I used their samples to patch a temporary tarp roof and that patch is working well. We are building a series of shed row barns/ stalls for horses. Their 12 x 48 shape was dictated in part by the size of the billboards readily available on ebay.  We decided to use 1 3/" chain link top rail pipe to go inside the edge sleeves. Figuring out a way to secure the billboard without cutting or putting grommets in was the hardest part.  Basically, we've built pole barns with pipe frames, recycled lumber from an old barn, polycarbonate window and billboard roofs. Where we couldn't use the recycled oak boards, I broke down and bought plywood that we covered with driveway and asphault patch/sealer. I don't know how good that is for the environment but, at $12./for a 5 gallon pail, you can't beat it. We got estimates for barn building, all upward of $14,000. So far, we've managed to spend $1,800. doing it with our own work and alternative building. The goal was to shelter the animals without taking out a mortgage. It is working even if the buildings raise a few eyebrows. Clarissa --- On Thu, 12/2/10, JUDITH WILLIAMS <williams_judith@hotmail.com> wrote: From: JUDITH WILLIAMS <williams_judith@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [papercreters] Roofing To: "papercreters papercreters" <papercreters@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thursday, December 2, 2010, 10:55 AM   Now that's something worth considering. How do they look? Any pictures? Seems like a lot of work but DIY usually is. I think it's good to have a lot of roof ideas. Papercrete is a great material - simple, cheap, good insulator, etc, but it's no good unless you have a roof with the same characteristics. I am looking at use metal siding from an old building that is falling down. It can be patched and painted. Also thinking about use billboards and now this tire idea. What have others used? Spaceman, what is your roof? "If Tyranny and Oppression Come to this Land, it Will be in the Guise of Fighting a Foreign Enemy" - James Madison Follow progress on the new project at http://www.papercretebyjudith.com/blog More papercrete info at http://squidoo.com/papercretebyjudith To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com From: huon@intas.net.au Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 18:09:55 +1100 Subject: [papercreters] Roofing   I have been putting old tires to use in as many ways as I could think of, and I have recently thought of a new way that may be of use to people building with papercrete. Take one old tire (preferably from a 4x4). Cut around the circumference of the tire in the soft side wall close to the tread. Use a very sharp, sturdy knife as I do or a reciprocating saw with the sides ground of the teeth. Remove the 2 sections of sidewall. (I place these upside down in the garden and fill them with cement to give a rather interesting stepping stone). Cut across the tread with an angle grinder fitted with a metal cutting disc. This will give you a piece of tread the width of the tire and around 5 feet long, or longer, depending on the size of the tire. Make heaps of these and fix them to battens on the roof, one facing up, the next facing down, as do the Chinese when making a roof from terracotta pipes or split bamboo halves. I have been using these treads as weatherboards fixed to the studs horizontally with galvanized tek screws and they last forever. I see no reason why, when fixed to the roof purlins vertically they will not be as effective. And the heat they attract could be directed from the ceiling space with a small fan into the house as required.

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