__._,_.___----- Original Message -----From: David-"The Hern"Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 9:18 AMSubject: [papercreters] Desert Construction Water -was- Re: WebsiteHi Neal, except for a few of the most isolated micro spots type
desert areas in the northern parts of the Colorado (non-Sonoran)
desert, I totally agree with you. Besides if the area is too far
North in the Colorado district it gets reliable but scant winter
water from the various Alaskan systems minus the rainshadow effect.
Also the few weeks for those micro-monsoonal spots would vary a lot
from year to year. Depends on if a northern or southern system can
break through and drop some. Excpet for coastal southern Californai
almost all of the areas above Northern Mexico are subject to possible
rain from tropical moisture in any given year. Here Chubascos from
the Mar de Cortez are rare.
I am guessing the PHX area gets its summer burst from the Cortez
systems, and ABUQ from the Gulf of Mex, or maybe ABQ also from the
northen ystems that brign summer rains to the lower GPlains?
--- In papercreters@yahoogroups. , "Neal Chabot" <sire@...> wrote:com
>
> Hey SG, you get an "A" for originality but I haven't the foggiest
idea of what you could possibly thinking of. The rainfall patterns
in the U.S. are tremendously variable depending on location, and I
can't think of anywhere that gets all its rain in a few weeks.
>
> What follows are the inches of rainfall by month where I live
(Albuquerque) and in Phoenix (both of whom are said to have
a "monsoon" pattern:
>
> ABQ Phoenix
> Jan .4 .7
> Feb .5 .7
> Mar .5 .9
> Apr .5 .3
> May .5 .1
> Jun .5 .1
> Jul .6 .8
> Aug 1.4 1.0
> Sep 1.0 .9
> Oct 1.0 .7
> Nov .4 .7
> Dec .5 1.0
>
> Neal
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: slurryguy
> To: papercreters@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 7:09 AM
> Subject: [papercreters] Desert Construction Water -was- Re:
Website
>
>
> My understanding about annual weather patterns in that part of
the
> country is that most of the rain occurs in one big annual
onslaught
> for a week or two. I recognize that there are probably other wet
> moments, but the preponderance of precipitation comes during that
> annual period. Am I correct?
>
> It seems to me that a prospective builder would do everything
he/she
> could to take advantage of that water when it falls right in
their
> lap. My thoughts are that one of the first and most important
things
> to install on a new building site would be a cistern or other
type of
> water storage tank. At first it may seem backward to install it
> before there is a roof to gather water to fill it. I don't think
> so. Since most of the water comes during a few days, it should be
> fairly easy to ceate a temporary system of tarps or billboard
vinyls
> or even sheet plastic spread accross the ground. Anchor it to the
> ground with a bunch of rocks everywhere so that the wind will not
> take it away.
>
> With a little preparation of the ground underneath the tarps you
can
> probably easily gather a lot more water than any typical tank or
> cistern can hold. Since the wet season, from my understanding,
> doesn't last long, it would be easy to roll up the tarps after
the
> tank is full or the weather dries up. (Whichever comes first.)
>
> If the storage tank is above ground, it would be a simple matter
to
> bury a barrell or trashcan at a lowpoint and let the tarps drain
into
> that. A small (float activated?) pump could then pump the water
from
> there to the storage tank.
>
> A creative builder wouldn't be spending any extra money for this
> temporary water system. Every construction site needs tarps
anyway.
> The tank is something you'll probably want or need installed
> eventually anyway.
>
> --- In papercreters@yahoogroups. , JUDITH WILLIAMScom
> <williams_judith@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I made about 1000 blocks for my building during which time I
had to
> haul water. Just got the well in less than a year ago. I have a
tank
> that fits in the back of the pickup and would go begging water
from
> neighbors. People are generally helpful. But it did make me extra
> aware of all the water that was flowing away. I just figured it
goes
> back into the ground anyway so wasn't being wasted. It just took
a
> lot of time to get enough water to work with. Like 2 days of
> gathering for 2 days of block making.
> >
>
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