I just visited that daycreek.com site to look at the trench
foundation plus their building. Cool. We hope to go visit a house
using a type of rubble trench in March, along with a papercrete
builder. This trench is made from the rubble of old road
construction as I understand it. Can't wait to see both houses.
Connie
--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, "ElfNori" <elf@...> wrote:
>
> Judith, Days Creek used a rubble trench with a stemwall . . . which
is what I think I'm going to use. It's a perfect match with pahs.
>
> http://www.daycreek.com/DC/html/journal101898.htm
>
> If you want gabions, you buy the container and fill it yourself.
If you do a google on gabions you'll hit a couple manufacturers.
>
> ElfN
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: JUDITH WILLIAMS
> To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:23 AM
> Subject: RE: [papercreters] Gabions+Papercrete
>
>
> Are we talking about preformed gabions or ones you make yourself
into the shape you need? Are they readily available? I have many many
rocks of all different sizes that could be used to fill the gabion.
Thanks for all this info. I am not very gabion savvy.
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
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> To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
> From: elf@...
> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:38:06 -0800
> Subject: Re: [papercreters] Gabions+Papercrete
>
> What about a gambion footer under a concrete stemwall. The
stemwall
> wouldn't have to be very tall. I'm building on the top of a
ridge with a
> pretty good dropoff on the backside . . . I need someone who's
an expert at
> gambion foundations to look at where I'm building and yeah or
nay it for the
> app.
>
> I'm with you on the "hate drywall" bit.
>
> ElfN
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "canineaficionado" <danceswithdachshunds@...>
>
> > Nori just mentioned gabions (rubble foundations)- I'd like to
throw my
> > 2 cents in here. Mike and I are planning on building our
curved wall
> > retirement home using gabions as the wall system. Hesco makes
a
> > partitioned gabion that is 3 feet wide, one foot of which can
hold a
> > decorative facing material like brick or flat rock. My idea
is to fill
> > the interior portion with river rock and fill the exterior
one foot
> > sectin with papercrete. (It will have to be lined to keep the
> > papercrete from flowing through the grid.) That would give us
2 feet of
> > thermal mass on the inside and one foot of insulation on the
outside.
> > The skill level is very low- a real bonus for us.
> >
> > This would not appeal to everyone. I LOVE rock- I HATE
drywall, so this
> > is the perfect solution for me. The gabions have some
structural
> > strength to them, plus the rock will add some stability.
We'll add a
> > poured concrete bond beam to the top of the wall. For the
foundation,
> > we might use a frost protected shallow foundation (FPSF)
instead of
> > more gabions. We're still in the first planning stages.
>
>
>
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