Thanks for the hints. I need the bulk for some projects so I will stick with regular papers. The Portand Cement should take care of the fire retardants.
Thanks Dan
From: Charmaine Taylor <charmainertaylor@gmail.com>
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2012 3:29 PM
Subject: [papercreters] insulation use
Thanks Dan
From: Charmaine Taylor <charmainertaylor@gmail.com>
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2012 3:29 PM
Subject: [papercreters] insulation use
I will work with some cellulose insulation paper and cement in small sizes probably making self
D Cisco-
Dan, I got a free bale of the cellulose insulation a few years ago, when wet it smelled like urine (acrid smell) from the fire retardents in it I was told...
this was the Cocoon brand, anyway when wet it is like fibery toilet paper, it has no mass or bulk to it. when added to clay it makes a lovely soft sculptable mix for a wall plaster. but it didn't act at all like papercrete which has regular paper/newspaper in it.
Since it is newspaper fluff, and meant to be blown in between studs and maintain high air entrainment I am not sure how well it will do when just soaked and added to cement. Be interested to see how it performs for you. Maybe less water will make a difference, but if left too dry it will just clump up and not blend well. (my experience)
good luck with it, if you can get it free and not have to pay for the bales that's great.
also I found if I soaked the cellulose insulation, and added it to dry joint compound ( the bagged kind, not premix putty kind in a tub) it makes a beautiful wall plaster too., but sets up fast, so small batches needed.
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Charmaine
Charmaine Taylor/Publishing & Elk River Press
PO Box 375 Cutten CA 95534
www.papercrete.com
Robert Heinlein (1907-1988) "There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him."
D Cisco-
Dan, I got a free bale of the cellulose insulation a few years ago, when wet it smelled like urine (acrid smell) from the fire retardents in it I was told...
this was the Cocoon brand, anyway when wet it is like fibery toilet paper, it has no mass or bulk to it. when added to clay it makes a lovely soft sculptable mix for a wall plaster. but it didn't act at all like papercrete which has regular paper/newspaper in it.
Since it is newspaper fluff, and meant to be blown in between studs and maintain high air entrainment I am not sure how well it will do when just soaked and added to cement. Be interested to see how it performs for you. Maybe less water will make a difference, but if left too dry it will just clump up and not blend well. (my experience)
good luck with it, if you can get it free and not have to pay for the bales that's great.
also I found if I soaked the cellulose insulation, and added it to dry joint compound ( the bagged kind, not premix putty kind in a tub) it makes a beautiful wall plaster too., but sets up fast, so small batches needed.
--
Charmaine
Charmaine Taylor/Publishing & Elk River Press
PO Box 375 Cutten CA 95534
www.papercrete.com
Robert Heinlein (1907-1988) "There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him."
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