Re: [papercreters] Re: Top bar honeybee hive made of papercrete

I disagree that leaching would be an issue on several grounds:

 

First, are you suggesting that the 1.25" walls of the reinforced PC hive would be so permeable as to permit rainwater to flow through the wall and leach PC chemicals into the hive?   I have my doubts as the portland cement would totally encase the paper fibers in the PC, preventing any such leaching.

 

Second, the honey itself is produced on a honeycomb that the bees build on a wooden bar (in my case 19" long X 1.25" wide) located at the top of the hive, so there is no direct contact between the honey and the PC.

 

Third, the hive is a relatively dry environment and the bees work pretty hard to maintain it that way, by fanning off any excess moisture in the air which can be deadly to them, particularly in winter.

 

Raf

Hyattstown, MD 

From: Bornofthehorses <bornofthehorses@yahoo.com>
To: "papercreters@yahoogroups.com" <papercreters@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Re: Top bar honeybee hive made of papercrete

 

I would not use PC where it has a direct line of contact with your personal use of food items and or water without some type of liner to shut down leaching of chemicals in the paper much lime or cement or other additives like borax etc. So if your eating, giving away or selling the honey I would take another look at the project, the rain alone may case problems of leaching to the bees themselves. JMHO

 

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From: Flea Flier <fleaflier@yahoo.com>
To: "papercreters@yahoogroups.com" <papercreters@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 4:54 AM
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Re: Top bar honeybee hive made of papercrete

I don't understand your question.  Oh...wait...I get it.  You're being a SMART ASS.  Well thanks for all your help.  Or should I say, lack thereof.  OK.  Let me put this out there.  I'm new to the papercrete world, and have been doing some research on the subject, lots of reading, but no hands-on experience.  I'm putting together the needed materials for my first papercrete project - the papercrete top bar beehive because I read that large flower pots can be made by papercreting so why not a top bar beehive?  My mixing vessel will be a 15 gallon HDPE tank and will probably be using a stationary electric drill as my mixing motor (yes, I know, probably underpowered, but I 've got to try somewhere before my inventive mind goes elsewhere).  I'm looking at the possibility of getting some pumice to lighten the end product, but evidently there's none of it to be had in the East Coast (I'm in Maryland), though US Pumice in the West Coast is sending me a sample.  If anyone knows of a reliable source of pumice, preferably pumice sand, or pea-size aggregate (1/4"), in the Maryland area, please let me know.  Thanks to all of you in advance.  Well, all of you except the above-mentioned smart ass.

 

Raf

From: "prrr.t21@btinternet.com" <prrr@talk21.com>
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 4:56 AM
Subject: [papercreters] Re: Top bar honeybee hive made of papercrete

 

How long's a piece of string?

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, "Flea" <fleaflier@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Y'all:
>
> I'm a top bar bee keeper and I've been thinking of molding a beehive out of papercrete. Thinking of placing chicken wire inside the walls for tewnsile strength, but would like to go as light as possible, while keeping the elements out. Any recipe ideas to suggest?
>
> Raf
>

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