Re: [papercreters] Re: Top bar honeybee hive made of papercrete

    I simply am looking at direct contamination by known chemicals and a track record of people I know getting sick and having the same said chemicals showing up in their systems.I love PC I use it just about everywhere except when food and water <that I consume has direct contact. With any other case there is always a coating like paint going on it also. So there is no direct contact again and as I am not in the habit of eating or drinking off a painted surface ether.My own restrictions are covered by how and where I use PC.    

 

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From: Donald Miller <donald1miller@yahoo.com>
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Re: Top bar honeybee hive made of papercrete

The point is that if the papercrete used as a mulch could leach dangerous toxins into the soil, then it stands to reason that the same toxins would leach into the water in the pulping process thereby ending up in the blocks/slipformed walls or whatever one would be making. If the excess water is allowed to drain onto the ground it is not unthinkable that it could eventually make it's way into the groundwater. The "what ifs" on this subject are endless and we could all wind up huddling in a "safe" dwelling sponsored and approved by Corporate America, which by the way, are loaded with very questionable materials and the resultant potential release of hazardous elements. --- On Wed, 4/11/12, Bornofthehorses <bornofthehorses@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Bornofthehorses <bornofthehorses@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [papercreters] Re: Top bar honeybee hive made of papercrete To: "papercreters@yahoogroups.com" <papercreters@yahoogroups.com> Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 8:06 AM   I would not use PC where it has a direct line of contact with your personal use of food items and or water without some type of liner to shut down leaching of chemicals in the paper much lime or cement or other additives like borax etc. So if your eating, giving away or selling the honey I would take another look at the project, the rain alone may case problems of leaching to the bees themselves. JMHO   Ken LEAD FOLLOW OR GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY http://www.americanpreppersnetwork.net/ http://neverenuffammo.com/ http://www.suburbanprepper.com/ http://survivalweekly.com/ http://preppernation.com/ http://survivalblog.com/ http://modernsurvivalonline.com/survival-database-downloads/ http://www.thecovertprepper.com/ http://www.urbansurvival.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/12VDC_PowerPLus/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PapercreteEarthbagsandVeggieoilohmy/ http://solarpanelkitatharborfreight.ning.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/barrelponics/ From: Flea Flier <fleaflier@yahoo.com> To: "papercreters@yahoogroups.com" <papercreters@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 4:54 AM Subject: Re: [papercreters] Re: Top bar honeybee hive made of papercrete I don't understand your question.  Oh...wait...I get it.  You're being a SMART ASS.  Well thanks for all your help.  Or should I say, lack thereof.  OK.  Let me put this out there.  I'm new to the papercrete world, and have been doing some research on the subject, lots of reading, but no hands-on experience.  I'm putting together the needed materials for my first papercrete project - the papercrete top bar beehive because I read that large flower pots can be made by papercreting so why not a top bar beehive?  My mixing vessel will be a 15 gallon HDPE tank and will probably be using a stationary electric drill as my mixing motor (yes, I know, probably underpowered, but I 've got to try somewhere before my inventive mind goes elsewhere).  I'm looking at the possibility of getting some pumice to lighten the end product, but evidently there's none of it to be had in the East Coast (I'm in Maryland), though US Pumice in the West Coast is sending me a sample.  If anyone knows of a reliable source of pumice, preferably pumice sand, or pea-size aggregate (1/4"), in the Maryland area, please let me know.  Thanks to all of you in advance.  Well, all of you except the above-mentioned smart ass.   Raf From: "prrr.t21@btinternet.com" <prrr@talk21.com> To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 4:56 AM Subject: [papercreters] Re: Top bar honeybee hive made of papercrete   How long's a piece of string? --- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, "Flea" <fleaflier@...> wrote: > > Hi Y'all: > > I'm a top bar bee keeper and I've been thinking of molding a beehive out of papercrete. Thinking of placing chicken wire inside the walls for tewnsile strength, but would like to go as light as possible, while keeping the elements out. Any recipe ideas to suggest? > > Raf >

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