Mahalo for your comment, Mr. Miller. Mr. Flier (sorry, Raf, just kidding) really is right, we are all doomed if we make our dioxin-saturated papercrete houses and tromp around in them with our sturdy little Birkenstocks (doubtless made and packaged in dioxin-associated whole-fiber cardboard cartons)on our bare feet. Ohhh, the humanity of it all!
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Donald Miller <donald1miller@yahoo.com> wrote:
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If dangerous chemicals are a potential problem with pulp used as a mulch, then how about the water runoff in the block making and or slip forming procedures? If there is a danger from chemicals in the paper/cardboard leaching into soil around plants, then the water from the pulping procedure could just as well be concentrated in the blocks/slip formed wall.This could also potentially end up in our groundwater supplies. We are bombarded with so many chemicals in our modern world, that while we need to be aware of the potential dangers, worrying about and imagining every scenario that could have a remote possibility of occurring seems to me to be overkill. We are in more danger of chemical contamination from eating supermarket foods raised by the corporate farms and heavily sprayed with pesticides and force fed chemical fertilizers than we are by using newspaper/cardboard/paper pulp as a mulch in our own garden.
From: Flea Flier <fleaflier@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Re: Paper (crete-less) Weed Mat
To: "papercreters@yahoogroups.com" <papercreters@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, March 29, 2012, 8:22 AMJust google dioxin and websites related to dioxin and paper manufacture will come upFrom: trendawareness <trendlinesystems@gmail.com>
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:05 AM
Subject: [papercreters] Re: Paper (crete-less) Weed Mat
Thanks for the reply.
Could you direct me to some authoritative sources?
A quick Google search quotes the EPA as saying the leaching of BPA is a "concern" but the primary source of exposure appears to be from plastic bottles, less so for paper, save for perhaps register receipts.
Other Goggle searches for "paper chemicals leaching" don't produce much else other than scientific "papers" discussing the leaching threat from other materials.
Thanks again!
--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, ken bolin <bornofthehorses@...> wrote:
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> Do not use it around anything you would eat from to be on the safe side there are tons of chemicals harmful to man used in making paper and I know of no way to know what is in the paper used.
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> Subject: [papercreters] Paper (crete-less) Weed Mat
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> My very first papercrete project sort of snuck up on me.
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> So as a test, I cleared the weeds around a bush and poured a 2" layer of paper slurry (without cement or aggregates) in a 2 foot ring around a bush, leaving about an inch around the stalk clear.
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> Four days, and no rain, later, the paper mat is fully intact and still wet to the touch. Too soon to say for sure, but no weeds so far.
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> Hopefully it will work as a weed mat and help hold in the moisture during the dry summer months. I may try adding some fertilizer to the slurry and see if I can use the mat as a slow-release applicator.
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> Based on some paper forms that I poured years ago, the mat should last at least 2 years.
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> I did have a question however. Is anyone aware of any toxins in typical paper waste that could leach into the soil? My understanding is that non-toxic inks have been the norm for a while now.
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> I ask because if this test works I'd like to pour larger mats around my vegetables.
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