Tuesday, July 8, 2008

Re: [papercreters] Re: Ed Conley - Project Photos / Followup Mail

Thanks.  I'm not doing a garage or any concrete except the grade beam . . . <fingers crossed>.  I don't think there's enough concrete there to warrant a truck . . . I think it would be a tedious day of mixing in a small mixer . . . I may be able to hitch onto someone else's load.  I'll have to see when the time comes.  If I get a truck for the small cabin, we can add the grade beam for the add-on chunks . . .
 
Because we're doing AGS I want to drop the grade beam down so the top is 6 inches above grade.  Standing water isn't an issue at our site . . . top of a ridge, and I want a floor right on the dirt to take advantage of the AGS/hypocaust heating. 
 
ElfN
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Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Re: Ed Conley - Project Photos / Followup Mail

Just one example:  I had a choice with the concrete guys whether to pour the pad for the house only or also the pad for the separate garage poured at the same time (on the same day).   Guess which choice would cost more?  What would it cost for another concrete delivery and to pay a crew for another day of work?   Multiply that by 20, add the cost and time for tripicate inspections, and you might get some idea of the savings in time and money.   Perhaps your friends in the other group could give you more perspective?
 
Neal 
 
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From: "ElfNori" <elf@elfnori.com>

Do you mind sharing why you think it's a bad idea?  It'll give me things to watch for . . .
 
I can get a permit for a basic post and beam with infill cabin . . . single room 24x24 that I can sit where the whole house is going to be . . . and build on from that.  If I plan carefully it should be fairly painless . . . I like high ceilings and uncomplicated roof lines.  I want a saltbox roof, so can place the cabin on the back side of the house site where the bathroom and kitchen plumbing has to be . . . If the cabin is the width of the wide part of the saltbox roof the build-on should be fairly uncomplicated.
 
I have to plan everything to death . . . it's just me.
 
ElfN
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Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Re: Ed Conley - Project Photos / Followup Mail

There are many reasons NOT to do it that way, assuming it will be permitted, but just do what makes you comfortable.
 
N
 
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From: "ElfNori" <elf@elfnori.com>

I'm firmly of the opinion any full sized house project needs to be done in parts.  What is the smallest space you can live in . . . start there, then add on all the additions you need to get what you want.
 
Thoughts?
 
ElfN
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From: Greg House
 
I totally agree with the approach of building test structures before leaping into a major project full fury, however, when you do, you have to realize that building something on the scope of a full sized house presents problems you may not encounter while building your shed or doghouse. Aside from the fact that your material may not scale up to a larger structure there are the normal issues that come up. Things take longer, inspections may be required, other trades may be involved, weather may not be cooperative, etc...

Greg

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