I don't see why not. Try a small one and see. (but stand back just
in case)
--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, "pepperh" <pepperh@...> wrote:
>
> Got another question for you folks, a bit off topic as it doesn't
involve paper, but....Can you put plastic bottles (milk, laundry
detergent, juice types) through a wood chipper?
>
> Pepper
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: slurryguy
> To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 5:31 PM
> Subject: [papercreters] Re: Sawcrete
>
>
> Great post Pat. Yes I read it all, and you left me still hungry
for
> more info. Well done. Please keep us posted.
>
> I think with my long diatribes putting everyone to sleep, an
> occasional long post from you will be a breath of fresh air to
> everyone. Keep it up. :) hehehe
>
> I'm sure that I used cement in my sample. I can't recall if I
would
> have used clay, flyash, and/or sand. I would have had all those
> ingredients on hand at the time I did it (several years ago).
Your
> use of lime make sense to me. It ought to make the mix more
sticky
> and "gluey" helping the slurry hold together better. I doubt I
would
> have had any lime in my samples.
>
> I find myself wondering about taking waste cedar from old fences
or
> whatnot and chopping/grinding it up. It might make a fantastic
> plaster for the inside of closets. A budget cedar closet! Should
> smell great too.
>
> --- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, "Pat" <trax78245@> wrote:
> >
> > The samples I've made so far I've been impressed with..they're
just
> > sawdust/chips, lime, & clay. I want to experiment some more and
> add some
> > latex paint to make the color of the mix a little lighter. The
> clay I have
> > is almost black and it makes the blocks very dark.kindof an
icky
> gray. It
> > probably won't matter what color the mix is because I'm going
to
> plaster
> > over it with a lime-base plaster anyway but I'm thinking the
paint
> will make
> > it a little smoother and easier to pump into the slip forms.
> >
> >
> >
> > I keep thinking of the TONS of mix I'll have to make and the
time
> it'll take
> > for each mix.I'm wondering if a cement company would rent a
cement
> truck out
> > by the day or the week. Have the forms ready on *everything*
you
> want to
> > build and pour one lift at a time on everything.wait until the
next
> weekend
> > and pour another lift. Hmmm..maybe I'll call around and see if
I
> can rent a
> > cement truck. It'd save time mixing batches and it seems from
what
> little
> > bit I've been playing with papercrete and sawcrete that it
takes the
> > sawcrete a little longer to set up and dry out. Maybe it would
set
> up
> > faster if I put some Portland in it? Or would that make it
> crumbly? Maybe
> > the book I got from Charmaine awhile back about lime will tell
> me.or the
> > next few bucks I get I'll order her CD.I tell ya', Charmaine is
a
> handy lady
> > to have around when somebody has a question about stuff.
Chances
> are if she
> > doesn't know she knows where we can find out. ;)
> >
> >
> >
> > I got the same result you did when I used just Portland, a
little
> sand, and
> > the wood chips/sawdust. But it seems like the lime and clay
make a
> BIG
> > difference. Maybe I can use the lime, Portland, and clay
instead of
> > sand..I'll have to check it out when it cools off a bit. Or,
> instead of
> > trying to reinvent the wheel, I could get Charmain's CD. ;)
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm really kindf thinking "out loud" and if anybody has to add,
> chime in! ;)
> >
> >
> >
> > A half bucket of pulped paper huh? Hmmm..probably could pulp a
> bucket of
> > paper with an old saw blade attached to a long drill bit on a
heavy-
> duty
> > drill? I'll have to go back into the archives to see what-all
is
> used to
> > make a small mixer.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'll let cha' know when what happens.but it won't be anytime
> soon.it doesn't
> > usually cool off here until sometime in the middle of October or
> > November.but then, I'm usually still picking tomatoes out of
the
> garden at
> > Christmas. ;) That reminds me. I've been meaning to post the
plans
> for the
> > aviary/greenhouse/guest cottage and get some feedback from
folks.
> I'll try
> > to do that this afternoon.
> >
> >
> >
> > If you've made it this far through this ramble, you patience is
> amazing and
> > greatly appreciated. ;)
> >
> >
> >
> > Pat
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:papercreters@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of slurryguy
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 6:47 PM
> > To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [papercreters] Sawcrete -was- Re: What are you
building
> with
> > Papercrete?
> >
> >
> >
> > Subtle? Subtle? Where's my dictionary. I gotta look that one
up!
> > hehehe
> >
> > It makes sense to use what you've got.
> >
> > In the multitudes of experiments I've run with sawdust (TWO
WHOLE
> > MINI SAMPLES! hehe), My preliminary discoveries indicated it's
not
> as
> > strong as papercrete. Crumbly. That sample size is hardly
> > conclusive on anything. I may not have had the ideal mix ratio
for
> > sawcrete. I'd guess that the sawdust particle size can make a
> > difference too. I did it so long ago I don't even remember what
I
> > did. It was an off the cuff experiment and I didn't write down
the
> > details. The second sample was a mix of sawdust and paper and
it
> > performed drastically better.
> >
> > My very subjective guess tells me that adding even a half
bucket of
> > pulped paper to a concrete mixer full of sawdust could make a
> > dramatic difference. Food for thought.
> >
> > You almost certainly have way more experience working with
sawcrete
> > than I do. You probably have a much better idea what mix to use
and
> > where to use it. Please educate all of us!
> >
> > --- In papercreters@ <mailto:papercreters%40yahoogroups.com>
> > yahoogroups.com, "Pat" <trax78245@> wrote:
> > >
> > > SG, you're so subtle with your hints ;)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ok, I have to admit that I'm going to cheat a bit...I'm not
going
> > to use
> > > paper..but the methods of papercrete and the recipes are
> basically
> > the same.
> > > I have an endless, FREE, source of wood chips/sawdust. Using
the
> > wood
> > > chips/sawdust I won't have to have a fancy mixer..just a good
HF
> > cement
> > > mixer. So maybe it's not what I'm building with papercrete,
it's
> > what I'm
> > > building with fibercrete.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In order, plans are for:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 1) Build a 6' x 6' x 6' high dog house (I have BIG dogs) ;)
> > using
> > > slip-form with rock facing so it looks like a rock dog house.
> > >
> > > 2) Encasing my husband's work shop (it's a 40' shipping
> > container)
> > > using slip forms
> > >
> > > 3) Build a new aviary and greenhouse
> > >
> > > 4) Build an extra bedroom & new kitchen onto the mobile home
> > >
> > > 5) Encase the whole MH with the mix, using the Larsen-truss
> > system
> > > (Thank you Charmaine!!) and slip-form with rock facing
> > >
> > > 6) Build raised beds using slip form & rock facing
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > There's SO much more I want to do..but all of it has to wait
> until
> > it cools
> > > off!! This area has really been lucky this year..the temps
> haven't
> > gone
> > > over 100 once this year.for the first time since I moved here
> from
> > West
> > > Texas some 20-odd years ago.but it's still too hot for a fat
old
> > woman to
> > > get out in the heat & humidity and work with lime and
cement. ;)
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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