Saturday, August 30, 2014

Re: Re: [papercreters] Brand new



  I suggest the lady check out the Tiny House info - http://tinyhousetalk.com/
There are lots of good ideas for inexpensive small homes, some of which can be moved to another location if needed.  Papercrete could be used in some of these plans for insulation as spaceman suggests. Depending on availability, she might also consider using a used shipping container as a sturdy component.  They need good insulation in most climates where papercrete panels could also work.  Lots of info on the web (e.g. http://www.tincancabin.com/how-to-build/)
 
 
 
Tom Hay, Ph.D.
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On 08/30/14, spaceman Spaceman@starship-enterprises.net [papercreters]<papercreters@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
 


On 8/29/2014 10:12 PM, checkyourbrakes2@yahoo.com [papercreters] wrote:
Hi all!  I'm brand new to yahoo groups in general and this page and papercrete in particular.  I've been offered an opportunity to rent on an acre of land.  I'm excited, and want to take the offer, but must come up with a housing plan.  I am a single mom and part time student.  Do you think it's possible to get a tiny house built before mid October? (when it usually starts getting cold here)
Single mom and part time student - sounds like your plate is pretty full. While it is possible to get a tiny house built by mid-October, it won't be dry or ready for sealing. "Possible" with lots of labor. Papercrete is labor intensive. You can prevent some of the physical labor by buying expensive equipment like a real trash rated pump and a good mixer. You need a ready source of paper, lots of it.

If I need something to hold me through the winter.  Would papercreting the inside of a used shed (made of plywood) prevent the off gassing of formaldehyde from the walls? and get us through the winter?  There are plenty of sheds for sale for $250-1000.  What would it cost, approximately, to cover the internal walls with papercrete?  Would it still be safe to use a wood burning stove?
Papercrete is not a vapor barrier and will do nothing to prevent off-gassing by plywood. A used shed should have already lost most of the formaldehyde but you still would want a barrier. If you have access to a tow mixer and plenty of paper it would probably be easier to start from scratch, form some papercrete walls and then put a shed roof on it, covered with papercrete.

How do I find out how people start their walls?
Here's one way - molded panels placed on a frame. For a shed you could mold large thin panels, maybe 4'x4'x4", and screw them to the walls.
http://starship-enterprises.net/Paperdome/

Another way is to make slip forms and mold the walls into place. This gives a tighter seal and turns out to be less work overall.
http://starship-enterprises.net/spraywasher/Index.html


I know this is a lot of questions in one.  Sorry for that.  I'm looking forward to the words of those wiser than myself.  Thank you!
You came to the right place for questions :) Ask all you want. It has been kinda dead around here lately and we can use the stimulation.



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Posted by: Tom Hay <tomhay@verizon.net>



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