Here is some old correspondence
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From: "Janoahsh" <janoahsh@alaska.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:35 PM
To: <ferro-users@ferrocement.net>
Subject: sawcrete
> I hope this is OK found in google
> From: 3crow
> To: organic_architecture@yahoogroups.com ; papercretenews@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 9:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [organic_architecture] Sawment walls (cement-sawdust)
>
>
> Charmaine,
> Thanks for giving out the great information. I wish I could someday meet
> with Frank Andresen. I did get the chance to talk with Dr. Ali Moslemi over
> the phone.
>
> As some of you know, at 3crow, I've been working with sawdust materials for
> the last three years. I've finally named the materials sawdobe and sawcrete
> depending on whether clay/lime or Portland cement is used in the mix but
> perhaps I should also add light sawcrete and light sawdobe to the
> nomenclature for my wall fill mixes as they are very light on the clay/lime
> or Portland cement, between 7 to 1 and 9 to 1.
> For my slabwall fill (which I'm in the process of finishing up) I'm using
> light sawcrete in potentially wet area applications and light sawdobe in the
> more protected high and dry areas. For the most part I'm using a wonderful
> shredded chip from a poll peeler that acts as good or perhaps better than
> straw as a binder. This summer my daughter used it in a mix over my bag wall
> and now it's dry and very hard and has quite the rough texture that will
> definitely give the next layer of natural plaster something to grab on to.
> In the cavity between the ceiling and roof I have a 2"- 4" layer of sawdobe
> and 12+" sawdust lime or between R 46 and R 54. next year I'll add the
> living roof part.
>
> So for Bradley Pride's question on o_a I would highly recommend using
> sawdust or/and wood chips in your building.
> I think using stones from your land would be a superior idea in building
> your "kinda victorian" timber frame home. But you are right in thinking it
> will be a more expensive project than a simple passive solar earthshelter.
> As you design it remember contemporary thinking is backwards. The mass
> wall... brick, adobe, tile or stone should be to the inside, to soak up heat
> and slowly radiate it back into the room, and the insulating material should
> be to the outside with a protective skin over it. Now if you are working
> with stone you can have both. For the outside walls think of using a double
> stone wall with a 16" cavity filled with light sawcrete and/or sawdobe.
> Behind any surface where there will definitely be exposure to direct water
> use sawcrete* switching to light sawcrete as you get past that area and for
> any higher areas out of the range of direct water contact you may be able to
> use light sawdobe.
>
> Is there anyone else out there currently using sawdust and wood chips?
> chris
> 3crow (:> (:> (:>
>
> *Perhaps you could use a lime/sand sawdust mix if you have any qualms about
> using Portland cement.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Charmaine R Taylor
> To: papercretenews@yahoogroups.com ; organic_architecture@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 9:31 AM
> Subject: [organic_architecture] Sawment walls (cement-sawdust)
>
>
> From Charmaine @ http://www.dirtcheapbuilder.com
>
> Here is a link for Sawment- a sawdust-cement wall form build technique
>
> http://forests.org/ric/good_wood/sawment.htm#anchor253923
>
> Also attached is a photo of Frank and crew tamping a clay-woodchip wall
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