Tuesday, March 24, 2009

Re: [papercreters] Re: Acrylic paint in papercrete

Hi Neal,

I guess I have no other “proof” for you than the conversations I have had with them and the sculptures that I have made. Also, if you look through other sites for darjit you should find it (you want the cold weather recipe, I’ll look for it later tonight), And, yes, you add old acrylic PAINT for the EXTEME OUTDOOR WEATHER SCULPTURE recipe. I do have the email but I would have to look through 3 years of emails to find it.

Is is just me, or is this forum getting snippy? It seems like every time I post something it is getting shot down. I guess I will refrain from sharing anymore, although I guess this sort of mitigates the idea of the forum.

Best,
H


On 3/23/09 2:21 PM, "Neal Chabot" <sire@comcast.net> wrote:


 

I find no reference saying that acrylic paint "waterproofs" when added to the mixture.    The site says that paint is added for color when desired, and acrylic adhesive is added for texture and bonding.   Exactly why dargit is said to be waterproof is a mystery since nothing is said about that, at least that I can see.

 

Neal


----- Original Message -----
From: "Heather Negaard" hnegaard@qwest.net

If anybody is familiar with darjit, acrylic paint is added to ‘waterproof” the mixture. Just my two cents. I say, try it and see how it goes. That’s how we learn and grow. I am testing a homemade papercrete mixture for making large scale outdoor work. Just waiting for it to warm up outside a bit before I tackle!

Best,
H


On 3/22/09 8:44 PM, "Tomas y Chelsea Dozier" <losdozier@yahoo.com> wrote:


 

My experience with paint in papercrete is that the PC mixture tends to not bind as well.  My different test samples gave me the surprising result that papercrete with paint was slightly more brittle than the just the simple recipe.  My straight recipe has performed better in strength tests.  It could just be the proportions I put into mine (about 1 part for every 15 parts) and perhaps other proportions could be better. In addition, I am wondering if the paint would add any insulative properties to your papercrete... by filling in the air bubbles it could potentially minimize the R-value.  Just a thought, for whatever it is worth, but specifically in respect for your intended use.  
Tomás Enrique

--- On Sun, 3/22/09, smt460 <smt460@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: smt460 <smt460@yahoo.com>
Subject: [papercreters] Re: Acrylic paint in papercrete
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 6:01 PM

  Thx for the reply im not using it in homes just as pipe insulation so it should be ok.Good to know that,carpet and lino also will do that.
thx  St Clair

- In papercreters@ yahoogroups. com </mc/compose?to=papercreters%40yahoogroups.com> , Glenneth Lambert <glenneth@.. .> wrote:
>
> I get FREE acrylic pain from CA dumps .  ( it's taken there as a part  
> of toxic cleanup ) Just a heads up.  It will out-gas toxic fumes for  
> approx. 8 months despite not smelling.  So .. to put in a highly  
> insulated building such as papercrete ..  contributes to  
> toxicification ( is that a word ;) of  yourself.
>
>
>              Sir Glenneth  - from " the land of Cobb "
>

  
   

 
  
    




  
    





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