Tuesday, January 11, 2011

RE: [papercreters] Re: Papercrete and blue tarp - Sticking? Chicken wire?



Miley Sklar has been doing this sort of thing. I think he has a youtube video.

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To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
From: criswells.ok@sbcglobal.net
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 01:57:25 +0000
Subject: [papercreters] Re: Papercrete and blue tarp - Sticking? Chicken wire?

 

Why use a geodisc dome frame at all?
Why not dig a footing and install rebar about every two feet in the footing. 
Fill  the footing with rubble.
Have a backhoe mound up a pile of dirt, sand or what ever is avaliable in the shape that you want your finished produce to be.
Tie rebar to the rebar in the footing and bend over the mound.
Then cover the mound and rebar with the chicken wire but not the tarp as the soil will quickly speed up the drying of the PC.
Install depth sticks so you know how thick you are spraying, and spray layer after layer until you reach the thickness you think will work.
Saw out a door opening large enough for a BobCat to remove all the dirt or sand inside.
Clean out the whole inside and spray a finish coat or two and trowel with a pool trowel to hide all the imprefections.
Saw your window and door openings if desired, and you will probably have to cut some of the rebar as well.
Pour or tamp a floor and finish.
Install a central fireplace.
Install your windows and doors and WALLA, you have a new home.

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, "George" <georgeberz@...> wrote:
>
> Papercrete and blue tarp - Sticking? Chicken wire?
>
> Spaceman we have discussed many papercrete issues over the phone and in person. though I would spin this out through the net see what the group has to say...
>
> Ok I have a 1.5" peristaltic pump with a 100 psi roll air air compressor for it designed to blow stucco onto walls, Spaceman you have seen that unit though not in action, it has a 1/3rd yard hopper for mix slurry.
>
> What if you took one of your pipe frame geodesic domes, covered it with the harbor freight blue tarps and tightened the tarps with bungee cords etc... then sprayed the PC on all over the dome in whatever thickness that will stand up to a pass and let sit and recoat and continue till you get a finished product.
>
> What about after the tarp is on but before PC addition or just after the 1st layer of PC winding galvanized chicken wire around the whole skin to embed in the PC walls for a safety factor should a chunk want to come loose?
>
> Would you be able to take down the metal pipe frame and then pull the tarp off the inside of the dome and reuse leaving only papercrete behind? and or PC and chicken wire?
>
> What about after the tarp is on but before PC addition or just after the 1st layer of PC winding galvanized chicken wire around the whole skin to embed in the PC walls for a safety factor should a chunk want to come loose?
>
> For a 1/2 sphere 12' diam what thickness do you think would be minimum acceptable? what about 24' diam...
>
> You know me and spring time will be coming in the air soon and George is itching to get out to TX and do some building on his property near you!
>
> I wonder if a workshop might be in order?
>
> George
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SurvivalArchive/
>




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