Papercreters: [papercreters] Re: my first posting

Friday, January 14, 2011

[papercreters] Re: my first posting

The bags will work for an underlayment, either cut open or used as is.
Just make sure you over lap enough to get a good seal. I've been using
old composition three tab ashphalt shingles for underlayment and they
worked great under my patio slab. Also saved a dump fee and got rid of
an unsightly heap.

BTB

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, JUDITH WILLIAMS
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that is needed. However, if you have something lying around that you
would throw away anyway you could consider putting it in the mix. I
ended up with thousands of woven polypropylene bags a few years ago.
When I tried to fill one to use as an earthbag I discovered that they
had deteriorated and are not strong enough. So I'm thinking of using
some of them as an underlayment for a papercrete floor or just cutting
them up and throwing then in the mixer. I know I am tired of moving them
every time in neaten up. I haven't deviated much from the original
"recipe" but I think anything that has fibers would be fine in a mix.
They must be kept short though or they will tangle around the blade.
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> They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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> ~ in Memoirs of the Life and Writings of Benjamin Franklin
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http://www.papercretebyjudith.com/blog
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> To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
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> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:50:08 -0700
> Subject: Re: [papercreters] Re: my first posting
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> For what purpose? Papercrete is fine for building just the way it
> is, plenty of compression strength. I don't think anyone wants to
> build a bank vault with it. IMHO if you are looking for a material
> with high tensile strength, you want something other than
> papercrete. My experience with putting metal into papercrete is that
> the pc shrinks away from the metal leaving it rattling around in a
> void. I don't have a source of cuttings to try in a batch, but since
> you do, how about doing some tests and posting the results?
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> Rope would add some nice fibers, would probably need to be cut into
> short pieces and then shredded so that the fibers can mix with the
> paper. Just throwing rope into a mix won't work too well. Again, why
> would you want to do this since pc works great without it? It seems
> to be a lot of extra work for possibly a marginal improvement.
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> spaceman
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> On 1/14/2011 4:52 AM, derk wrote:
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> The reason i ask is i watched a tv programme about safe bank vault
building and in the concreting process they use stainless steel cuttings
which make the finished concrete slab amazingly strong in both
compression and tensile situations. For papercrete i imagine you need a
scrap product that would adhere readily to it. IF you used old rope how
long would the strand of rope have to be , when in the process would you
add them to the papercrete mix , how else would adding rope effect the
other qualities of the finished product... derk
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