RE: [papercreters] Floor

I don't put anything but cement.  That is one reason I dont cut back on the cement more.  I did an earthen floor in our teepee and kept cutting back on the cement on each batch.  One batch right in the middle didnt get near hard enough.  I didnt think that batch was that much different.  Made me wish I had kept better records.  But it seemed I found the point where it just didnt work.  Of course every soil is different but now I am nervous about using too little cement.  Hope the get-together works out for everybody. Ron --- On Wed, 6/23/10, JUDITH WILLIAMS <williams_judith@hotmail.com> wrote: From: JUDITH WILLIAMS <williams_judith@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [papercreters] Floor To: "papercreters papercreters" <papercreters@yahoogroups.com> Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 8:56 PM   Did you put anything under your papercrete floor? Did you add borax or anything to repel pests and mold?   I am psyched to visit. Hope it works out. Follow progress on the new project at http://www.papercre tebyjudith. com/blog More papercrete info at http://squidoo. com/papercreteby judith   To: papercreters@ yahoogroups. com From: yakishome@yahoo. com Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:59:20 -0700 Subject: RE: [papercreters] Floor   I like getting straight boards or square steel tubing mounted in the floor as a guide to screed it flat.  I was having trouble getting flat floors till I started doing that.  I intended to take them out when the final coat was done but decided to just leave them and find some more square tubing. Hope you and Ev and Spaceman can come visit. Ron --- On Mon, 6/21/10, JUDITH WILLIAMS <williams_judith@ hotmail.com> wrote: From: JUDITH WILLIAMS <williams_judith@ hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [papercreters] Floor To: "papercreters papercreters" <papercreters@ yahoogroups. com> Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 8:53 PM   Thanks Ron. Your information about the floor is very helpful especially the part about the sand and cement to smooth the finish. I was wondering how you would handle the settling of the papercrete. It's hard to get it really even but I would think that with the high cement content you would have minimal shrinkage. I guess I do the papercrete part of the floor as you are doing then even the whole thing out with the mud layer. A visit with Ev and Spaceman there would be great. I am so curious to see what you have done and maybe even get to contribute something. Follow progress on the new project at http://www.papercre tebyjudith. com/blog More papercrete info at http://squidoo. com/papercreteby judith   To: papercreters@ yahoogroups. com From: yakishome@yahoo. com Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 16:25:42 -0700 Subject: RE: [papercreters] Floor   Judith The floor is about three inches thick and the formula I came up with is one-half standard concrete mix and one half papercrete.  You could probably cut back on the cement.  I haven't experimented that much with it.  I form sections and drag a board across the forms.  After that sets up with the forms still in place I put a sand and cement mix on and drag the board across again to get a smoother finish if I am not putting a wooden subfloor on it.  I am not sure how far you can stretch the cement in an earth floor mix. Ron --- On Mon, 6/21/10, JUDITH WILLIAMS <williams_judith@ hotmail.com> wrote: From: JUDITH WILLIAMS <williams_judith@ hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [papercreters] Floor To: "papercreters papercreters" <papercreters@ yahoogroups. com> Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 8:56 AM   Thanks Doris. Is the high cement content so you can nail into it? How thick is the floor before you put the wood floor on? Is he doing it in sections or layers?   I am just about to finish the walls of my second little building and will go back to the roof on the one you guys helped me with. I'm thinking it would be good to get a papercrete subfloor in this summer so I can finish both buildings by winter. I know that usually the floor is the last thing to do but I want it to have time to harden up and I figure we can cover it while we do the interior plaster. I plan to put a mud floor over the papercrete.   I've sort of been keeping an informal tally of what this building has cost me and I think it's only about $500 so far. That's mostly for the cement. I haven't really had to pay for anything else. And I already have all my windows, doors, appliances, water heater, plumbing fixtures etc, so it should be a very inexpensive project. And of course the volunteer labor is a huge thing.   I'm so glad you are doing well. Wish I could get down there for a visit. Maybe some day. Thanks again for all your help.       Follow progress on the new project at http://www.papercre tebyjudith. com/blog More papercrete info at http://squidoo. com/papercreteby judith   To: papercreters@ yahoogroups. com From: yakishome@yahoo. com Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:16:21 -0700 Subject: Re: [papercreters] Floor   Ronnie has been doing our bedroom floor with half concrete and half paper pulp. Seems to be doing fine we will lay a wooden sub floor over that then hard wood floors. One nice thing about this mix is that you can nail in to it. More photo's of project to go on the site when it comes back up. Ron & Doris --- On Fri, 6/18/10, JUDITH WILLIAMS <williams_judith@ hotmail.com> wrote: From: JUDITH WILLIAMS <williams_judith@ hotmail.com> Subject: [papercreters] Floor To: "papercreters papercreters" <papercreters@ yahoogroups. com> Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 10:59 AM   Has anyone done a papercrete floor? Follow progress on the new project at http://www.papercre tebyjudith. com/blog More papercrete info at http://squidoo. com/papercreteby judith Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. See how. The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get started. Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. See how. The New Busy is not the too busy. 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