Ken, I didn't know you were in Santa Fe. I virtually built my first project with papers that i got out behind the New Mexican pringint plant on the frontage road. When a reporter wanted to interview me I told him I where I had gotten the paper. He told the guy in charge of the plant who emailed me and told me to stop taking the papers. I went and asked permission and was denied so I just kept getting papers from the bins out back until they put locks on them.
Newsprint is then best and easiest paper to work with. I am now getting papers from local school librarians. Of course this is labor intensive and it's hard to get enough. I'm glad most of the big stuff is done for me now. Please keep us informed about how it's going for you.
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From: Spaceman@starship-enterprises.net
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:41:48 -0600
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Update on newsprint source
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Newsprint is then best and easiest paper to work with. I am now getting papers from local school librarians. Of course this is labor intensive and it's hard to get enough. I'm glad most of the big stuff is done for me now. Please keep us informed about how it's going for you.
What are you working on?
Follow progress on the new project at http://www.papercretebyjudith.com/blog
More papercrete info at http://squidoo.com/papercretebyjudith
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
From: Spaceman@starship-enterprises.net
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:41:48 -0600
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Update on newsprint source
Years ago I talked to The EL Paso Times about their waste paper. At first it was hard to get any information, but after working my way through several people I was finally told that all their paper goes to a major recycler who transports it to MX. I tried to get more information to see if maybe I could get some from that recycler, but the person refused to give me any more information. I hope you have better success in Santa Fe.
I managed to find "a" major recycler and think it may be the same one the newspaper uses. Though the market for paper was $20 a ton at the time, they agreed to sell me paper for $75 a ton, plus a delivery fee. A few times I bought several tons from them, and the quality varied a lot. It was mostly shredded office paper, but more than once I found broken beer bottles and various trash in the middle of the bales.
I have friends who save all their paper for me and call when they have a stack. Same deal with a couple of offices, and they always shred for security purposes so that is nice. The best bet is a large building that houses several offices and has central trash collection.
On 9/16/2011 11:20 AM, ken winston caine wrote:
I managed to find "a" major recycler and think it may be the same one the newspaper uses. Though the market for paper was $20 a ton at the time, they agreed to sell me paper for $75 a ton, plus a delivery fee. A few times I bought several tons from them, and the quality varied a lot. It was mostly shredded office paper, but more than once I found broken beer bottles and various trash in the middle of the bales.
I have friends who save all their paper for me and call when they have a stack. Same deal with a couple of offices, and they always shred for security purposes so that is nice. The best bet is a large building that houses several offices and has central trash collection.
spaceman All opinions expressed or implied are subject to change without notice upon receipt of new information.
On 9/16/2011 11:20 AM, ken winston caine wrote:
My visit to my nearest Santa Fe County dump transfer station was disappointing. Indeed, the woman who manages it again welcomed me to take all the newspaper (and other paper) I want, just as she had two years ago when I asked. That part's good. But here's the bummer. (Bummer for me, at least.) Santa Fe County has a big machine that can separate mixed recycling waste and now only separates cardboard and glass. Plastic, cans and paper are all thrown into the same recyling bins at the transfer stations. Used to be there was a large, walk-in storage container for only paper and where people carried and stacked their bags of paper or their bundled bales. That's what I was planning to pull my paper from. It no longer exists. My next step is to talk to the local newspaper folks about how I can get their bundled/baled rack returns that they send for recycling. I MAY have to pay something for those these days. Will know after I've talked with them. (Today or Monday.) When I talked to a circulation manager at one regional newspaper regarding this about six years ago, the papers were having to pay to have the bales hauled off to be shipped to paper recycling pulping plants in the U.S. or overseas. So at that time I was welcome to grab them for free so long as I would take at least a full pallet load at a time. (They didn't want me breaking open stretch-wrapped pallets and taking only a portion of its bounty.) I just had to time the grab so that I got there before the paper-pulp broker's freight hauler any time I wanted a bunch. That MIGHT still be the case. However, the recycled paper business has really taken off, wholesale and retail paper prices have increased by about 50% in the last five years, newspaper circulation and rack sales are way down, newspapers are really hurting for income now, and the whole market and opportunity may have changed. Will report what I learn. Have a few other ideas for how to get five to 10 tons of bundled newspapers for free or virtually no cost if this doesn't pan out, but nearly all are much more time consuming. Would love to hear others' experiences in locating reliable free, bulk sources of paper. Newsprint is my paper of choice, but I'm open to any free bulk source of non-slick paper. Best, kwc ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/papercreters/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/papercreters/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: papercreters-digest@yahoogroups.com papercreters-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: papercreters-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3900 - Release Date: 09/16/11
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