Wednesday, March 4, 2009

RE: [papercreters] UG Dome

OK, how about making fewer tubes but large enough to use as emergency exits or conduits to underground storage or equipment rooms?  In other words multifunctional.  As with energy systems, what is waste from one can be fuel for another.  Like many things it is the principal we need to grasp more than the particular application…. or  “there is more than one way to skin a cat”.

I like larger spaces that are easy to clean and plumbing and utilities that are easy to access and retrofit.

I plan to vent my papercrete walls with passages that can have dry air blown throw them or even gases to kill mold, or other alien life forms.

It was brought up on another forum that there may be beneficial micro organisms that can be introduced that will feed on mold.

Janosh

 


From: papercreters@yahoogroups.com [mailto:papercreters@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bert Tagge
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 6:33 PM
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [papercreters] UG Dome

 

OK, I am in agreement that mold can be a big problem with earth tubes.  Just how effective would be a combination of swabing with say a bleach solution and an ozone treatment?  There are no free lunchs, but we can evolve into a pretty ecologically sound alternative

Thanks

Bert

--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Nick Boersema <picknick@sympatico.ca> wrote:

From: Nick Boersema <picknick@sympatico.ca>
Subject: RE: [papercreters] UG Dome
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 6:31 PM

I would recommend any one thinking of earth tubes to look at Don Stephens work http://www.greeners helter.org

He has a lot of theory on his page and some really good updates on the old technologies of the Seventies.  I do wish he would update his site more frequently with new data form his customers that have been using his ideas for more than five years.

 

Nick

 


From: papercreters@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: papercreters@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Greg House
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 11:41 AM
To: papercreters@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [papercreters] UG Dome

 

Spaceman wrote:

> I'll run a few earth tubes for the air intake so I stay at ambient more or less.

Do you have any experience with earth tubes? I've found a lot of contradictory information about their effectiveness and am wondering if it's really a viable technology or not. It -seems- like it'd be workable, but nobody seems to have information about how deep they need to be, how long, etc.

I found one website that had all these intense calculations about airflow, ground temps, etc which sounded very positive...but then they went to say they'd never actually BUILT one. Great, that's real helpful. Other sites say the ground around the tubes gets heat saturated and they stop functioning after awhile. So I'm confused. This is something I think I'd like to use, but it's a lot of work and money for all that excavation if it doesn't function.

Greg

 



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