Papercreters: [papercreters] Re: Acrylic paint in papercrete

Thursday, March 26, 2009

[papercreters] Re: Acrylic paint in papercrete

Not a deck stain but a waterproofing seal layer, poly based, not to mix into the slurry but to use on top after finishing....look for products like Thompson's Water Seal.

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, "smt460" <smt460@...> wrote:
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> Well to the best of my knowlage oil paint doesnt breath that is why you dont use it in extreem wet areas.and polyurithaine is used for metal i have only put it on brick once in 25 yrs of being in the painting trade.I would like to see the document where you found your info from.Deck coatings are stain and do not have a coating like oil or latex paint their for stain sinks in to create a seal.just my 2 cents worth.
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> - In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, "manormeta" <evoamo@> wrote:
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> > Acrylic paint by itself will not waterproof papercrete but it will help with elasticity/cracking due to extreme weather changes. To waterproof papercrete works a top coat of stucco could be used with an oil-based or polyurethane product. Oil repels water but acrylic is mostly water and dye....oil based paints would like beat off water the same way deck coatings are used to protect wood decks from water damage.
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> > ~evo~
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> > --- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, Heather Negaard <hnegaard@> wrote:
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> > > Hi Judith,
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> > > If you look up darjit, you¹ll find some info about adding acrylic paint to
> > > the mix, esp for cold weather outdoor sculpture.
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> > > www.darjit,.com
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> > > (taken from their site) Building light weight outdoor garden sculptures:
> > > 3 parts darjit, 1 part cement, 10% acrylic adhesive or acrylic paint.
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> > > I do know that they have a different recipe for extreme cold, using more
> > > acrylic paint. I requested it, I will have to find it. It is to help with
> > > the waterproofing and the expansion/shrinkage of the product in cold
> > > weather.
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> > > On 3/23/09 1:52 PM, "JUDITH WILLIAMS" <williams_judith@> wrote:
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> > > > Sorry but I may have missed the point of putting latex/acrylic paint into the
> > > > mix. Is it to waterproof? I have many 5 gallon buckets of it in my closet and
> > > > was going to use my regular mix then paint the first few courses after they
> > > > had completely cured. Also was going to do the same thing with a papercrete
> > > > roof.
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> > > > Sincerely, Judith
> > > > Visit my papercrete website at www.judith-l-williams.com
> > > > <http://www.judith-l-williams.com/> .
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> > > > Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing. Helen Keller
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> > > > To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
> > > > From: losdozier@
> > > > Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:44:10 -0700
> > > > Subject: Re: [papercreters] Re: Acrylic paint in papercrete
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> > > > My experience with paint in papercrete is that the PC mixture tends to not
> > > > bind as well. My different test samples gave me the surprising result that
> > > > papercrete with paint was slightly more brittle than the just the simple
> > > > recipe. My straight recipe has performed better in strength tests. It could
> > > > just be the proportions I put into mine (about 1 part for every 15 parts) and
> > > > perhaps other proportions could be better. In addition, I am wondering if the
> > > > paint would add any insulative properties to your papercrete... by filling in
> > > > the air bubbles it could potentially minimize the R-value. Just a thought,
> > > > for whatever it is worth, but specifically in respect for your intended use.
> > > > Tomás Enrique
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> > > > --- On Sun, 3/22/09, smt460 <smt460@> wrote:
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> > > >> From: smt460 <smt460@>
> > > >> Subject: [papercreters] Re: Acrylic paint in papercrete
> > > >> To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
> > > >> Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 6:01 PM
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> > > >> Thx for the reply im not using it in homes just as pipe insulation so it
> > > >> should be ok.Good to know that,carpet and lino also will do that.
> > > >> thx St Clair
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> > > >> - In papercreters@ yahoogroups. com
> > > >> <http:///mc/compose?to=papercreters@yahoogroups.com> , Glenneth Lambert
> > > >> <glenneth@ .> wrote:
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> > > >>> > I get FREE acrylic pain from CA dumps . ( it's taken there as a part
> > > >>> > of toxic cleanup ) Just a heads up. It will out-gas toxic fumes for
> > > >>> > approx. 8 months despite not smelling. So .. to put in a highly
> > > >>> > insulated building such as papercrete .. contributes to
> > > >>> > toxicification ( is that a word ;) of yourself.
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> > > >>> > Sir Glenneth - from " the land of Cobb "
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